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Old 04-08-2010, 08:03 PM
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It's a strong leader in the clubhoue though.

Maybe Pletcher has his eyes set on the Grand National with Discreetly Mine.
1/9 to not make it over the first jump.

Although what McPeek is trying to do is about as laughable as a US Trainer taking a US Steeplechase horse over for the Gold Cup...
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:05 PM
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Why is McPeak talking about this now? Did they run the Arkansas Derby early without anyone knowing about it and Noble's Promise lost?
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:20 PM
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Wasn't it off like a three day layoff also?

3 weeks - ran 5th beaten about 5 lengths to Request for Parole in the UN at Monmouth (I checked it up )

He ran a cracker in the King George then!
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:25 PM
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3 weeks - ran 5th beaten about 5 lengths to Request for Parole in the UN at Monmouth (I checked it up )

He ran a cracker in the King George then!
Then it was Mullins who ran a sprinter on 3 days rest, some clown did it when over there.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:36 PM
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Then it was Mullins who ran a sprinter on 3 days rest, some clown did it when over there.

Wes "the legend" Ward with Cannonball at Royal Ascot last year??
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:33 PM
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>>>"I walked the course at Epsom when Hard Buck came over to England in 2004, and I think this horse will like the course," McPeek said.<<<




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Old 04-08-2010, 09:58 PM
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1/9 to not make it over the first jump.

Although what McPeek is trying to do is about as laughable as a US Trainer taking a US Steeplechase horse over for the Gold Cup...
"The first circuit - and particularly the first fence - is all about survival. You can’t win the Grand National if you’re lying on the floor." ~ Mick Fitzgerald

The great Red Rum from 1973:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7X4YHzGMD4
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:35 PM
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Then it was Mullins who ran a sprinter on 3 days rest, some clown did it when over there.

Most all of the sprinters do it at Royal Ascot...
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:45 PM
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I remember when McPeek was yapping about running Dream Empress in the Oaks over in the U.K.
That's what I was thinking of.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:30 AM
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That's what I was thinking of.
Don't forget Bridgetown being penciled in for the 2000 Guineas following his huge 2nd in the BC Juvenile Turf last year.

Of course, he might want to opt for the Russian Guineas equivalent instead following his disastrous effort in the Grade 3 Generous a couple of weeks later.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:54 AM
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Don't forget Bridgetown being penciled in for the 2000 Guineas following his huge 2nd in the BC Juvenile Turf last year.

Of course, he might want to opt for the Russian Guineas equivalent instead following his disastrous effort in the Grade 3 Generous a couple of weeks later.
Hasn't been seen since I don't think either. That effort was horrendous.
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:04 AM
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His Saratoga Special win in the slop was spectacular.
I happened to look at sire stats for Cuvee and noticed that his offspring win 29% on off-tracks from a triple digit sample size. They are 32-for-111 on wet going. Noble's Promise could improve if he gets a wet track based on that.

Cuvee's offspring win 19% of the time sprinting and 12% routing.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:13 AM
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Kentucky Derby (G1) contender NOBLE'S PROMISE (Cuvee) has been supplemented to the June 5 Epsom Derby (Eng-G1) at Tuesday's second entry stage, it was revealed Thursday. The Ken McPeek trainee, who is scheduled to run in Saturday's Arkansas Derby (G1) at Oaklawn Park, is one of eight added to the Blue Riband at a cost of £8,000 apiece.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/edito...e.cgi?id=18085
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Old 04-09-2010, 08:39 AM
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That's too bad if it ends up happening. I think he's a pretty nice horse who has shown good versatility surface-wise. There should be a lot of 7f-8.5f stakes races he could contend in this summer. His versatility could especially make him a perfect candidate to enter in turf races with a high probability of coming off the turf, because he has shown ability on multiple main-track surfaces, as well as his impressive turf maiden-breaker.
I agree with the majority that attempting to prep him for a 12f race, and then shipping him over there and trying to win the race would probably ruin what could otherwise be a very useful 3yo campaign.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:25 PM
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That run should set up NP for the Arc not doubt about it.
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:37 AM
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We'll never know whether he could've run a 130 Beyer with Frankel now will we...He'll be a hell of a lot better in the shed than Ghostzapper, we all know that.
I just wanted to update the scoreboard on Grade I winners produced.

Ghostzapper 1
Mineshaft 0

I know, I know, I just had to give you a hard time and any chance to invoke the ultra inflammatory Stately Victor can't be passed.

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Old 04-13-2010, 12:01 PM
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I just wanted to update the scoreboard on Grade I winners produced.

Ghostzapper 1
Mineshaft 0

I know, I know, I just had to give you a hard time and any chance to invoke the ultra inflammatory Stately Victor can't be passed.

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I don't know that strictly Grade I winners will be the basis but ok...also that BG was less impressive than some of the Grade 2 winners that Mineshaft already has. Let's wait 5 years and revisit shall we.
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:11 PM
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As one very smart trainer told me " these Ghostzappers just can't run on dirt. "
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:13 PM
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As one very smart trainer told me " these Ghostzappers just can't run on dirt. "
So Ghostzapper had foresight into throwing Poly winners. Bravo...In 20 years Poly will be something in history books.
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:25 PM
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As one very smart trainer told me " these Ghostzappers just can't run on dirt. "
Hey, that could all change soon. His most recent winner was a 3YO in a 20k maiden claimer at Evangeline last Friday night. They completed the six panels in 1:13.74 and the comment was "all out at the finish." He's trained and owned by Minus J. Gisclar II and got a Beyer of 52. He's taking the path to stardom via the bayou.

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