Current Derby Matchups

[lemoncrush]

Courtesy of Wynn Las Vegas

Lucky +155 vs Eskenderya -185
Nobles Promise -115 vs Sidney’s Candy -115
Ice Box EVEN vs Super Saver -130
Awesome Act -110 vs American Lion -120
Homeboy Kris +135 vs Discreetly Mine -165
Conveyance +125 vs. Endorsement -155
Interactif -110 vs Dean’s Kitten -120
Rule -110 vs. Endorsement -120
Line of David -105 vs. Mission Impazible -125
Stately Victor +110 vs. Paddy O’Prado -140
Super Saver +105 vs. Dublin -135

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Courtesy of Wynn Las Vegas

Lucky +155 vs Eskenderya -185
Nobles Promise -115 vs Sidney’s Candy -115
Ice Box EVEN vs Super Saver -130
Awesome Act -110 vs American Lion -120
Homeboy Kris +135 vs Discreetly Mine -165
Conveyance +125 vs. Endorsement -155
Interactif -110 vs Dean’s Kitten -120
Rule -110 vs. Endorsement -120
Line of David -105 vs. Mission Impazible -125
Stately Victor +110 vs. Paddy O’Prado -140
Super Saver +105 vs. Dublin -135

Those are excellent lines but I expect that from Avello. Limits used to be 500 on these but they'd bump up to a grand if you asked....Maybe a little Ice Box there at even money.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Courtesy of Wynn Las Vegas

Lucky +155 vs Eskenderya -185
Nobles Promise -115 vs Sidney’s Candy -115
Ice Box EVEN vs Super Saver -130
Awesome Act -110 vs American Lion -120
Homeboy Kris +135 vs Discreetly Mine -165
Conveyance +125 vs. Endorsement -155
Interactif -110 vs Dean’s Kitten -120
Rule -110 vs. Endorsement -120
Line of David -105 vs. Mission Impazible -125
Stately Victor +110 vs. Paddy O’Prado -140
Super Saver +105 vs. Dublin -135

Do you have Wynn's Derby future odds?


--Dunbar

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Awesome Act to CRUSH American Lion looks great to me.

Then you should fly to Vegas and bet it. 20 horse field. Anything can happen.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Do you have Wynn's Derby future odds?


--Dunbar

from 4/20/2010

http://www.brisnet.com/php/fw/bris_library/Index

ESK = 8/5
LAL = 5/1
SID = 7/1
AMER LION = 9/1

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by robfla

from 4/20/2010

http://www.brisnet.com/php/fw/bris_library/Index

ESK = 8/5
LAL = 5/1
SID = 7/1
AMER LION = 9/1

Thanks for the link. If the 4/19 Wynn odds are still accurate today, then Wynn's odds are better than either TheGreek or 5Dimes for 4 horses: Endorsement (27-1), Make Music For Me (75-1), Awesome Act (20-1), and Stately Victor (40-1).

I just posted TheGreek's and 5Dimes' futures in another thread.


--Dunbar

[MarkyD]

Dunbar, I kept this from Pinnacle last year before race...

Just imagine you had put 100 on him

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by MarkyD

Dunbar, I kept this from Pinnacle last year before race...

Just imagine you had put 100 on him

That's why 50-1 was an underlay. You deserved far more if you cashed on him.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by robfla

from 4/20/2010

http://www.brisnet.com/php/fw/bris_library/Index

ESK = 8/5
LAL = 5/1
SID = 7/1
AMER LION = 9/1

Oh my goodness.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Oh my goodness.

My thoughts exactly.

someone must have plunked down some decent change on him.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by robfla

My thoughts exactly.

someone must have plunked down some decent change on him.

American Lion was a popular future bet late in 2009 and early in 2010.
I think they moved his line down to 12-1 around the start of January.
I got him at 40-1 in November a few weeks after his strong maiden win at Keenland, which was obviously way too low of a price to take on him at that point, but it was just for $10.

His current line isn't indicitive of what he'll be on derby day, but Wynn is keeping it low since they took so much action on him several months ago, before the major 3-yo preps.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by MarkyD

Dunbar, I kept this from Pinnacle last year before race...

Just imagine you had put 100 on him

Yep, at 200-1, MTB might have been tempting. He was "only" 100-1 in my own line. 5Dimes was only offering 110-1, and TheGreek 85-1.

Pinnacle will probably put up a line for this year's Derby next week.

--Dunbar