DERBY NEWS (4/25): Eskendereya out; Lookin at Lucky new fave..

[Lovely Laurel]

It's a bowed tendon for Eskendereya.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Sorry to hear that, but running the filly is just stupid; she has no chance (and I like her a lot).

Who's considerably better than her? If there were ever a year to take a shot with a filly, this is the one. And I hope I don't have to hear about Eight Belles as a reason not to run.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Who's considerably better than her? If there were ever a year to take a shot with a filly, this is the one. And I hope I don't have to hear about Eight Belles as a reason not to run.

I was looking forward to betting her in the Oaks, but with the new developments, I see no reason why she doesn't have a shot in the big race now.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Sorry to hear that, but running the filly is just stupid; she has no chance (and I like her a lot).

completely disagree with it being stupid, and her having no chance. many entered have a chance at this point.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Anyone know if Setsuko is shipped in and been working?

He may have a chance to get in


I would love LAL at 3/1 as the fave I think he can easily be beat,now just gotta pick the right horses to toss

I thought Setsuko was being entered in one of the turf races. Don't know if he's shipped yet.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Who's considerably better than her? If there were ever a year to take a shot with a filly, this is the one. And I hope I don't have to hear about Eight Belles as a reason not to run.

You won't hear that reason from me - Eight Belles has nothing to do with it. I don't see what she's done to prove she deserves a shot; she won one race, the Bonnie Miss. It was a nice race, but hardly spectacular. I think she'll finish much closer to last than she will to first.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Anyone know if Setsuko is shipped in and been working?

He may have a chance to get in


I would love LAL at 3/1 as the fave I think he can easily be beat,now just gotta pick the right horses to toss

I believe Setsuko is in Louisville and being pointed toward the American Turf on Derby day.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

completely disagree with it being stupid, and her having no chance. many entered have a chance at this point.

Were you really that impressed with her Bonnie Miss that you thought Derby at that point?

[philcski]

The most shocking thing that came out of the press conference to me is that Zayat is Jewish. In a country of 80 million there's less than 200 Jews in Egypt.

I was pretty sure he was out after yesterday's gallop from what I saw and then Steve and Mike Welsch saying the same thing.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Linny

This is very disappointing because I was going to play against him.

Well now you look smart because he is not going to win....

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Betsy

You won't hear that reason from me - Eight Belles has nothing to do with it. I don't see what she's done to prove she deserves a shot; she won one race, the Bonnie Miss. It was a nice race, but hardly spectacular. I think she'll finish much closer to last than she will to first.

What has Line of David done other than one race? What has Mission Impazible done other than one race? What has Stately Victor done other than one race? American Lion? Dean's Kitten? Ice Box? Endorsement? Awesome Act? Homeboykris? Discreetly Mine? And please tell me what was more 'spectacular' about any of their wins.

How many of the likely Derby starters have more than one significant win to their name? Eskendereya only had two, and he was going to be the heavy favorite. Why should having only one big win disqualify Devil May Care if it doesn't disqualify those other horses?

[slotdirt]

Not looking good for our two "E" horses, including Endorsement, my personal favorite. Let it go, Exterminator!

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by philcski

The most shocking thing that came out of the press conference to me is that Zayat is Jewish. In a country of 80 million there's less than 200 Jews in Egypt.

I was pretty sure he was out after yesterday's gallop from what I saw and then Steve and Mike Welsch saying the same thing.

Must be tough to find a decent bagel.....

[Port Conway Lane]

Tough break for anyone with a pool 1 future wager on Esky as well.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What has Line of David done other than one race? What has Mission Impazible done other than one race? What has Stately Victor done other than one race? American Lion? Dean's Kitten? Ice Box? Endorsement? Awesome Act? Homeboykris? Discreetly Mine? And please tell me what was more 'spectacular' about any of their wins.

How many of the likely Derby starters have more than one significant win to their name? Eskendereya only had two, and he was going to be the heavy favorite. Why should having only one big win disqualify Devil May Care if it doesn't disqualify those other horses?

Well, I don't give Stately Victor a chance because he's a poly horse and Discreetly Mine doesn't belong in the race. Dean's Kitten? Same as Stately Victor. The crop is not all that good, but then again just because they aren't that good doesn't mean Devil May Care has a chance to beat them; I just don't think she's as good as the colts (not that that's saying much). Was she your KY Oaks selection?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What has Line of David done other than one race? What has Mission Impazible done other than one race? What has Stately Victor done other than one race? American Lion? Dean's Kitten? Ice Box? Endorsement? Awesome Act? Homeboykris? Discreetly Mine? And please tell me what was more 'spectacular' about any of their wins.

How many of the likely Derby starters have more than one significant win to their name? Eskendereya only had two, and he was going to be the heavy favorite. Why should having only one big win disqualify Devil May Care if it doesn't disqualify those other horses?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Well, I don't give Stately Victor a chance because he's a poly horse and Discreetly Mine doesn't belong in the race. Dean's Kitten? Same as Stately Victor. The crop is not all that good, but then again just because they aren't that good doesn't mean Devil May Care has a chance to beat them.

So I come back to my original question: who is significantly better than her? If she's so overmatched, you should be able to name at least 10 horses that are significantly better than her. I can think of maybe two.

And why aren't you railing against Stately Victor, Discreetly Mine and Dean's Kitten running? Why is Devil May Care singled out as a stupid entrant?

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Well, I don't give Stately Victor a chance because he's a poly horse and Discreetly Mine doesn't belong in the race. Dean's Kitten? Same as Stately Victor. The crop is not all that good, but then again just because they aren't that good doesn't mean Devil May Care has a chance to beat them; I just don't think she's as good as the colts (not that that's saying much). Was she your KY Oaks selection?

I agree-she has really done nothing and seems the best reason to like her and reason why they wanna run her is she can go the distance???

There are about 4 or 5 horses who have no business and are tosses no matter what for me

Stately Victor-Horse who was nothing until runs big on Poly,now he has a chance. Didnt we see in past years what happens with horses who run big there

Discreetly Mine-

Dean's Kitten-Another 1 doesn't need an explanation

Line of David- who if the Arkansas Derby was another 10 feet would have been 3rd and not even be in the Derby.

[packerbacker7964]

So much for getting a better price on the horse's now that Esky's out.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by tjfla

I agree-she has really done nothing and seems the best reason to like her and reason why they wanna run her is she can go the distance???

Distance? How about the field being terrible and being far from the least likely winner on paper?