5/15 (PIM): Ike out; 12 for Preakness; Draw 5pm (HRTV)

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.

was just thinking the same thing.

[lemoncrush]

What about Drosselmeyer?

Interesting to see if Winstar decides to run 2 in that race, or points Drosselmeyer elsewhere.

There's no Peter Pan this year, right? So..unless you go in the Dwyer, there's not a lot of options.

[skippy3481]

U would think ice box would be ideally suited to the belmont...

[Buffymommy]

Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but the stretch at Belmont is shorter than Churchill by nearly 150 feet. The turns at Belmont are what go on forever.

NT

[Buffymommy]

Now you have done it. My bubble is burst. I am so sad now. (I meant he will like the extra quarter mile.) Is that better?

Seems like he's the sucker horse now. That was a brutal trip and might take the starch out of him for a month or two. No way I take 3-1 or less on him in the Belmont.

[tjfla]

Ya Ice Box will be the heavy fave at Belmont. The horse looked like he could run forever

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)
A Little Warm (Tony Dutrow)
Bushwhacked (Jonathan Sheppard)
Caracortado (Mike Machowsky)
Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas)
Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)
Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)
Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert)
Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans)
Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)
Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)
Super Saver (Todd Pletcher)
Turf Melody (Graham Motion)

What the max # of horses that can run?

Originally Posted by tjfla

Ya Ice Box will be the heavy fave at Belmont. The horse looked like he could run forever

It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by tjfla

What the max # of horses that can run?

14 sounds familiar but I'm not positive

[NTamm1215]

If you like Ice Box and they plan to skip the Preakness you ought to cheer heartily for Super Saver to win impressively in Baltimore. Then Ice Box will be a larger price, nowhere near 11-1, but he'll offer a bit more value.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.

So what does he tell Dogwood? Sorry I have the Derby winner, you can't run?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

If you like Ice Box and they plan to skip the Preakness you ought to cheer heartily for Super Saver to win impressively in Baltimore. Then Ice Box will be a larger price, nowhere near 11-1, but he'll offer a bit more value.

NT

While I thought ice box clearly ran the best race yesterday, I am not that enthused about his prospects moving forward as he seemingly is the type that needs pace help and luck to be successful.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo

too true.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

While I thought ice box clearly ran the best race yesterday, I am not that enthused about his prospects moving forward as he seemingly is the type that needs pace help and luck to be successful.

i agree. been figuring everyone will jump on his bandwagon now. people tend to look to closers for whatever reason in the belmont, when in fact speed and stalker types excel in this race. longer distances may well dull his late kick, and if the pace isn't right, he won't get there. i picked him for yesterday because i thought there was plenty of speed up front for him to close into. it's not always the case.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo

Just a side note, as a YOUNG kid I actually liked that movie. I think it is so funny that it gets made fun of so much now. (It did back then too but I was too young to get it.)

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree. been figuring everyone will jump on his bandwagon now. people tend to look to closers for whatever reason in the belmont, when in fact speed and stalker types excel in this race. longer distances may well dull his late kick, and if the pace isn't right, he won't get there. i picked him for yesterday because i thought there was plenty of speed up front for him to close into. it's not always the case.

It is going to give us a better price on a horse who doesn't need the pace up front.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

their record after ovie became captain was gaudy, so i disagree about more flash than substance. as for crosby, not a fan. he's talented alright. but i do think some tend to forget that this is a team sport. pens without malkin faded a bit during the regular season.
caps had one hell of a year, maybe next year they'll have a better post-season.

funny tho, ovechkin/crosby is almost like zenyatta/rachel. someone mentions one, only a matter of time before the other comes up.

It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???