Obama's Oil Spill

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, the relief well (2 access points) was started, and is currently still being drilled and set up. I heard 2 months, however, until completion. I think they started it about a week after the disaster.

They initially said 30 days, but assured them it would never be necessary because they had all the proper safety/environmental bases covered ...all the while distracing them (the Interior Dept) as the were too busy being wined and dined and watching porn at work to give a good rats asz

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05...wake-of-spill/

Change we can believe in

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

They initially said 30 days, but assured them it would never be necessary because they had all the proper safety/environmental bases covered ...all the while distracing them (the Interior Dept) as the were too busy being wined and dined and watching porn at work to give a good rats asz

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05...wake-of-spill/

Change we can believe in

It's infuriating, how much everyone was allowed to get away with regarding safety, etc (coal industry - ditto)

But that "change we can believe in" was supposed to have already shook those "TX oilmen in the WH, have a secret meeting with Cheney, boys" years up. We'll see.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The GOP is not all about "America first", it is all about "private corporations and business and commerce and no government" first. Social programs, people, the environment - have never been the GOP strong point.

kinda like capitalism ????

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

OK..I'll broaden that..since when have Republicans ever been concerned about the planet? Come on Dell...who has been pushing for more off shore drilling the last 10 years and who hasn't?

but wasn't it obama who just signed off on more drilling?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

kinda like capitalism ????

Yes, Dell, from what I've seen, in modern times the GOP has always been the party that supported capitalism, over the Dems.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but wasn't it obama who just signed off on more drilling?

Obama signed off on limited shallow water drilling, with caveats and alot of state controls. It was a token PR move for the right.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama signed off on limited shallow water drilling, with caveats and alot of state controls. It was a token PR move for the right.

cause you were his guy right? LOL

This clearly was Nixon's fault

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

cause you were his guy right? LOL

This clearly was Nixon's fault

Well..it certainly wasn't Obama's fault

You down here at alll this weekend?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's infuriating, how much everyone was allowed to get away with regarding safety, etc (coal industry - ditto)

But that "change we can believe in" was supposed to have already shook those "TX oilmen in the WH, have a secret meeting with Cheney, boys" years up. We'll see.

Last I remembered, Bush (after agreeably being shaken while reading to schoolchildren) made it a point to put aside fund-raising and all of his other "responsibilities" to get to Ground Zero in a manner that stressed the importance of rallying the country around a disaster of immeasurable proportions.

You're guy, not so much

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

cause you were his guy right? LOL

This clearly was Nixon's fault

Again, Dell, separate out the voices in your head from me

I'm against putting more into additional oil drilling. I want alternative forms of energy - wind & geothermal. I don't care for nuclear, there are safer ways to make steam. In the US we have no strong impetus to go alternative routes.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Last I remembered, Bush (after agreeably being shaken while reading to schoolchildren) made it a point to put aside fund-raising and all of his other "responsibilities" to get to Ground Zero in a manner that stressed the importance of rallying the country around a disaster of immeasurable proportions.

You're guy, not so much

Dan..you are comparing 9/11 to BP's explosion?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

Again, Dell, separate out the voices in your head from me

I'm against putting more into additional oil drilling. I want alternative forms of energy - wind & geothermal. I don't care for nuclear, there are safer ways to make steam. In the US we have no strong impetus to go alternative routes.

That's exactly the point...less dependancy on oil makes this all unnecessary

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Again, Dell, separate out the voices in your head from me

I'm against putting more into additional oil drilling. I want alternative forms of energy - wind & geothermal. I don't care for nuclear, there are safer ways to make steam. In the US we have no strong impetus to go alternative routes.

so I take it ur anti-euro and the steps they've taken; especially France?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Again, Dell, separate out the voices in your head from me

I'm against putting more into additional oil drilling. I want alternative forms of energy - wind & geothermal. I don't care for nuclear, there are safer ways to make steam. In the US we have no strong impetus to go alternative routes.

and of course China needs to be stopped now?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and of course China needs to be stopped now?

HOW?

And Russia.

But the U.S. needs to stop drilling and magically all of those countries mentioned will too.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Last I remembered, Bush (after agreeably being shaken while reading to schoolchildren) made it a point to put aside fund-raising and all of his other "responsibilities" to get to Ground Zero in a manner that stressed the importance of rallying the country around a disaster of immeasurable proportions.

You're guy, not so much

Obama didn't say, "You're doing a heck of a job, BP"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

so I take it ur anti-euro and the steps they've taken; especially France?

Sorry, you'll have to clarify. I do not have a clue what fight you are trying to start, over what

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Dan..you are comparing 9/11 to BP's explosion?

Bob,
Are you assuming that this disaster is less important to the security of our Nation? Or our Nation's well being?

It's assinine to compare the two....

I'm not "comparing" anything - I'm stressing the importance of the President of the United States of America role in salvaging one of our only unreplaceable resources, while keeping a level head and assuring our nation that he is involved at the highest level...Sorta like actually showing up...

Not sending his dimwitted lackey who is directly complicit in the entire mess...

Not putting the importance of jetting off to California to raise money for Barbara Boxer above this - this will be the downfall of any legacy he had envisioned for himself.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Bob,
Are you assuming that this disaster is less important to the security of our Nation? Or our Nation's well being?

It's assinine to compare the two....

I'm not "comparing" anything - I'm stressing the importance of the President of the United States of America role in salvaging one of our only unreplaceable resources, while keeping a level head and assuring our nation that he is involved at the highest level...Sorta like actually showing up...

Not sending his dimwitted lackey who is directly complicit in the entire mess...

Not putting the importance of jetting off to California to raise money for Barbara Boxer above this - this will be the downfall of any legacy he had envisioned for himself.

I thought you had compared Bush's reaction of 9/11 to Obama's of Day 35 of the BP spill?

There are two different arguements happening here...If you want to say that by now the US Govt should be more involved?..Sure..I can't argue that. But to say that situation is comparable to Katrina or 9/11 or to say it's Obama's Spill is crazy I think. It's just Republican's looking for an edge.