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Old 06-03-2010, 10:25 AM
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Love the name of the Acorn starter Much Rejoicing. But she should be related to Brave Sir Robin somehow. (Monty Python and the Holy Grail, for you uneducated louts who don't know the source. Run away! Run away!)
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:33 AM
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Nice all stakes P4... The 2 short fields are also interesting.
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:41 AM
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Nice all stakes P4... The 2 short fields are also interesting.
I think the Just A Game is normally a very deep field and one of my favorite races on the undercard....I would like to try and beat either fave in the Woody Stevens. Not sure I can
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:29 AM
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I think the Just A Game is normally a very deep field and one of my favorite races on the undercard....I would like to try and beat either fave in the Woody Stevens. Not sure I can
Only two. Won't three horses (D'Funnybone, Eightyfiveinafifty and Discreetly Mine) all be in the 2-1 range?
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:30 AM
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Only two. Won't three horses (D'Funnybone, Eightyfiveinafifty and Discreetly Mine) all be in the 2-1 range?
No DM will be much higher than that
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:36 AM
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No DM will be much higher than that
How high can he go in a five-horse field, especially where Remand looks outclassed? He has very good races over the track, and with the Pletcher/Castellano connection, I'm expecting that he'll be bet.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:06 PM
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They can't all be too low.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:11 PM
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where Remand looks outclassed
I hope this is a popular opinion.

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Old 06-03-2010, 02:14 PM
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I hope this is a popular opinion.

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I'm with you - I sort of like him.
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:18 PM
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85/50 - 6/5
DF - 8/5
DM - 7/2
TUP - 12/1
Remand - 9/1

My guess.
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:45 PM
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Love the stakes P4. And the P3 on the 3rd thru the 5th.

The rest of the card? You can have it. Definitely not a better undercard than Derby Day at Churchill.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:52 AM
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Short fields or not, Belmont continues to carry the torch of best undercard of the Triple Crown.

Undercard looks nice enough to me, too.

I just wish I had a clue (or consistent success) when it comes to betting New York races.

I'm confident in my California and Florida wagers, feeling I know those tracks.

When it comes to Arlington and New York tracks my few wagers fly with far less confidence. I gave up on Aqueduct years ago.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:42 PM
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Any of the NYRA bashers (The Fat Man) should officially now shut the hell up. Talk about a great betting card. Probably the best betting card of 2010 so far. NY will probably do about 50 times Monmouth's handle on Sat.
Crist definitely disagrees with you on the card.

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Old 06-04-2010, 04:45 PM
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Crist definitely disagrees with you on the card.

http://cristblog.drf.com/crist/
WHO CARES about the 1st 2nd and 13th race, if thats all he can take from this card that he's being very short sighted. Some people will complain about anything
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:44 PM
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I really think Thank U Philippe looks good in the Woody Stephens.

Am I nuts here or does anyone else like him too?
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:11 AM
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:23 AM
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Crist definitely disagrees with you on the card.

http://cristblog.drf.com/crist/
How does he disagree there? All he says is that they had to resort to some lower quality races to get 13 races?

I'm more interested in how he has horses double ranked, 'cx' , 'AB' , 'BC' ?

I'd love to know if that is him undecided on what level they belong or if he actually assigns both levels to the actual horse.
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:53 AM
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How high can he go in a five-horse field, especially where Remand looks outclassed? He has very good races over the track, and with the Pletcher/Castellano connection, I'm expecting that he'll be bet.
I think people will focus on his drubbing at the hands of D'Funnybone in the Futurity over the same track and distance last fall as the main reason to keep from making him one of the favorites.

If that doesn't work, his most recent sprint, the Spectacular Bid at GP, should do the trick.

To me, this horse is the classic speed horse that can't handle a sprint pace, which means the only way he can win is to hang on in a route race with a favorable pace scenario. Not sure what he's doing here, he should be in the prep races leading up to the Haskell.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:09 AM
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I think people will focus on his drubbing at the hands of D'Funnybone in the Futurity over the same track and distance last fall as the main reason to keep from making him one of the favorites.

If that doesn't work, his most recent sprint, the Spectacular Bid at GP, should do the trick.

To me, this horse is the classic speed horse that can't handle a sprint pace, which means the only way he can win is to hang on in a route race with a favorable pace scenario. Not sure what he's doing here, he should be in the prep races leading up to the Haskell.
He didn't exactly have smooth sailing in the Spectacular Bid.
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Old 06-05-2010, 12:04 PM
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He didn't exactly have smooth sailing in the Spectacular Bid.
He did until he couldn't find enough to get past Wildcat Frankie.

Maybe they'll try to drop back and make one run today. He certainly can't go with Eightyfiveinafifty and last if that maiden race at Saratoga last summer is any indication.
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