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Old 06-08-2010, 03:57 PM
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Iffy weather could complicate? or simplify? any thoughts?
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:15 PM
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I could see the 1 being a horse you'd include. I want no part of I Ain't No Saint and Be Bullish has been largely ineffective against open company. Law Enforcement's two wins last year were pace-aided and banking on those types of suicidal duels in here is faulty.

Rudy Rod has the 2 moving in the right direction and last time out he dueled a horse into the ground that was 3 for 4 at Belmont coming into that race. I think Cornelio will have little trouble getting clear from the inside and that'll be all she wrote.

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There is a limit to any horse, regardless of how good the juice is. There is no doubt that Rudy has improved this horse, but a 20k claimer at Aqueduct and a starter 25k is a little different then this field. I can see them going 22.1/44.3/57, how does he hold on going that fast going an extra 1/2 furlong?
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:22 PM
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There is a limit to any horse, regardless of how good the juice is. There is no doubt that Rudy has improved this horse, but a 20k claimer at Aqueduct and a starter 25k is a little different then this field. I can see them going 22.1/44.3/57, how does he hold on going that fast going an extra 1/2 furlong?
With all due respect, what could possibly make you think they're going to go that fast?

Prado is one of the least aggressive jockeys in NY, so he'll have to put Be Bullish to an all out drive to set those type of fractions and even then Cornelio is likely to let him go and stalk from the outside.

This is far from a tough field, in fact, one might argue that Brilliant Son and Aquino, who he defeated two back were better (perhaps earlier in their careers) than anything he's facing today. He also buried Have You Ever last time out and that horse was coming off a sharp N2X win on May 1.

All I'm saying is that trying to beat this horse, especially in a race where I Ain't No Saint and Law Enforcement have basically no chance, is not a good idea in my opinion.

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Old 06-08-2010, 04:25 PM
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There is a limit to any horse, regardless of how good the juice is. There is no doubt that Rudy has improved this horse, but a 20k claimer at Aqueduct and a starter 25k is a little different then this field. I can see them going 22.1/44.3/57, how does he hold on going that fast going an extra 1/2 furlong?


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Old 06-08-2010, 04:31 PM
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1-4-6
1-4-6-7
6-10
2-5-6
1-2-3-5
5-9-12

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Old 06-08-2010, 04:42 PM
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With all due respect, what could possibly make you think they're going to go that fast?

Prado is one of the least aggressive jockeys in NY, so he'll have to put Be Bullish to an all out drive to set those type of fractions and even then Cornelio is likely to let him go and stalk from the outside.

This is far from a tough field, in fact, one might argue that Brilliant Son and Aquino, who he defeated two back were better (perhaps earlier in their careers) than anything he's facing today. He also buried Have You Ever last time out and that horse was coming off a sharp N2X win on May 1.

All I'm saying is that trying to beat this horse, especially in a race where I Ain't No Saint and Law Enforcement have basically no chance, is not a good idea in my opinion.

NT
I agree with all of these points. To me, it's a two-wide leg, just because of the respect I have for Starforaday and his closing kick beyond six furlongs. If you allow that he may not have liked Gulfstream, he's also the horse to beat on figures.
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:58 PM
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There is a limit to any horse, regardless of how good the juice is. There is no doubt that Rudy has improved this horse, but a 20k claimer at Aqueduct and a starter 25k is a little different then this field. I can see them going 22.1/44.3/57, how does he hold on going that fast going an extra 1/2 furlong?

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Old 06-08-2010, 06:46 PM
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Old 06-08-2010, 06:52 PM
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With all due respect, what could possibly make you think they're going to go that fast?

Prado is one of the least aggressive jockeys in NY, so he'll have to put Be Bullish to an all out drive to set those type of fractions and even then Cornelio is likely to let him go and stalk from the outside.

This is far from a tough field, in fact, one might argue that Brilliant Son and Aquino, who he defeated two back were better (perhaps earlier in their careers) than anything he's facing today. He also buried Have You Ever last time out and that horse was coming off a sharp N2X win on May 1.

All I'm saying is that trying to beat this horse, especially in a race where I Ain't No Saint and Law Enforcement have basically no chance, is not a good idea in my opinion.

NT
It is more about it potentially happening, but your assessment of Prado is a very good one that I did overlook. It isn't like a bug boy is on the horse and going to push. After rewatching the last two races, I agree with you now. I was probably trying to make it more complicated then it should have been. I'll still be two deep if I play, 1-2.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:06 PM
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My winnings from KNS on Tuesday........

1 - 7 - 6/10 - 2 - 4/5 - 3/10 ($16)

4 - 7 - 7/10 - 4/7 - 2 - 7 ($8)

6/7 - 6 - 6 - 1 - 1 - 2 ($4)
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:40 PM
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$2 Pick 6

4th: 1,4
5th: 1,4,6
6th: 6,7,9,10
7th: 2,5,6,7
8th: 1,2
9th: 1,3,9,11,12

2x3x4x4x2x5 = 960 x $2 = $1920

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Old 06-08-2010, 11:10 PM
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70% chance of rain.....eek!
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:14 PM
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Combination of chalk & value plays for this P6 effort:

R4: 1,4,6 (taking chalky top 3 in MCl25k)
R5: 1,7 (chalk) + 4 (value)
R6: 3,7 (favs) + 9 (value)
R7: 6 (chalk) + 1A,3,7 (value)
R8: 1,2 (chalkiest two in five horse affair)
R9: 1,12 (favs) + 3,7 (value)

Another of many here already with "only $1,728" caveman ticket

Best of luck tomorrow to all who attempt to navigate this six-race slalom!
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:39 AM
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:15 AM
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Despite the probability of rain most of the day,


1,4

6,7

7,9,10
5,6,7,8

1,2,4,5

1,8,10,11

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Old 06-09-2010, 06:21 AM
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70% chance of rain.....eek!
Forecast calls for the rain to likely start around 2pm. (Thunderstorms NOT part of the equation though now). Since tt would take torrential downpours to affect the turf, you'd think the 4 grass events are safe (4th, 6th, 7th, 9th).

WEATHER UNDERGROUND FOR ELMONT
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:46 AM
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R4 1,2,4,6
R5 1,4,6,7
R6 6,7,10
R7 5,6
R8 1,2
R9 1,5,11,12
Total $1536

Ticket I might actually play depending on conditions:
1,6/1,4,7/6,10/5,6/2/1,12 $96.00

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# 1,3,4,6
WT # 1,4,6,7
WT # 3,4,6,7,10
WT # 1,3,5,6
WT # 1,2,4
WT # 12
$1,920.00

good luck!!

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Race #4 06/09/2010
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# 1,3,4,6
WT # 6,7
WT # 6,7
WT # 1,3,5,6
WT # 2,4
WT # 12
$256.00

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I agree with all of these points. To me, it's a two-wide leg, just because of the respect I have for Starforaday and his closing kick beyond six furlongs. If you allow that he may not have liked Gulfstream, he's also the horse to beat on figures.
why does law enforcment have no chance hes 8st 3 wins 2 seconds at belmont 3 st 2 wins 1 second at the dist and has faced better all through his life. i think he laughs at these late......

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Old 06-09-2010, 09:32 AM
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4) 1,4
5) 4,6,7
6) 6,7,10
7) 4,5,6
8) 1,2,4,5
9) 1,3,7,11,12

$1728

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