8/28 (DMR) Pacific Classic S. (G1)

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

DH, I think you know what I was referring to. Anyway I'll say it again RK is the 6th horse to exit the 09 Classic field to win a grade 1 this year out of the 7 that have raced this year. Name me another race last year that can boast that %?

Unless you look at the races they won and who was in them, this stuff really doesn't matter. What person in their right mind would use the results of that trainwreck of a race today as some sort of way to boast about Zenyatta?

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by CSC

DH, I think you know what I was referring to. Anyway I'll say it again RK is the 6th horse to exit the 09 Classic field to win a grade 1 this year out of the 7 that have raced this year.

How many of those Grade 1 wins this year have been on real dirt?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Unless you look at the races they won and who was in them, this stuff really doesn't matter. What person in their right mind would use the results of that trainwreck of a race today as some sort of way to boast about Zenyatta?

This has more to do with hearing how crappy the Classic field was last year. Everytime a horse wins a grade 1 that comes out of it, I certainly want to remind people that it was indeed a bad field.

Furthermore, this Zenyatta thing is old, infact I rarely am the first to bring it. When I said I moved on, I mean't it. And really there is nothing for me to add until she runs in the Classic. Look at the posts here of mine this year, I'll let them speak for themselves. If others phish for a response I may give them one, but this is hardly the reason why I post here.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

How many of those Grade 1 wins this year have been on real dirt?

Probably none, but what does this have to do with the field that lined up in the 09 Classic?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC1985

This has more to do with hearing how crappy the Classic field was last year. Everytime a horse wins a grade 1 that comes out of it, I certainly want to remind people that it was indeed a bad field.

Furthermore, this Zenyatta thing is old, infact I rarely am the first to bring it. When I said I moved on, I mean't it. And really there is nothing for me to add until she runs in the Classic. Look at the posts here of mine this year, I'll let them speak for themselves. If others phish for a response I may give them one, but this is hardly the reason why I post here.

Why do you post here? To torture people that can think for themselves, as opposed to parroting what some idiotic talking heads say on TV?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

This has more to do with hearing how crappy the Classic field was last year. Everytime a horse wins a grade 1 that comes out of it, I certainly want to remind people that it was indeed a bad field.

Furthermore, this Zenyatta thing is old, infact I rarely am the first to bring it. When I said I moved on, I mean't it. And really there is nothing for me to add until she runs in the Classic. Look at the posts here of mine this year, I'll let them speak for themselves. If others phish for a response I may give them one, but this is hardly the reason I am here.

Again, when you are using Awesome Gem and Richard's Kid to somehow validate your opinion, something is wrong.

Spare me the nonsense about why you are here.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by CSC

Probably none, but what does this have to do with the field that lined up in the 09 Classic?

The Breeders Cup Classic is one of the most important dirt races in North America. It is a shame if the horses who ran in it cannot compete at the highest levels on real dirt.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Again, when you are using Awesome Gem and Richard's Kid to somehow validate your opinion, something is wrong.

Spare me the nonsense about why you are here.

Richard's Kid was an ordinary horse on dirt. He was dusted by Macho Again in the 2009 New Orleans Handicap. He moves to the fake stuff and has now twice won the richest race in California.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Why do you post here? To torture people that can think for themselves, as opposed to parroting what some idiotic talking heads say on TV?

Why do you post here? To make idiotic comments about races
/horses after the fact, or to just name call? It's a tough call but I'll say it's a tie for all of the above.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

The Breeders Cup Classic is one of the most important dirt races in North America. It is a shame if the horses who ran in it cannot compete at the highest levels on real dirt.

But aren't half the Major tracks in NA on synth and half on dirt? You can say the same thing this year at CD. Half the horses that should be at CD will not be there or won't be as effective. Does that diminish this year's Classic because of this?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by CSC

But aren't half the Major tracks in NA on synth and half on dirt? You can say the same thing this year at CD. Half the horses that should be at CD will not be there or won't be as effective. Does that diminish this year's Classic because of this?

You can't be serious.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You can't be serious.

What's not serious about this? Or is this a dirt-centric bias working here. Like it or not, racing today is a combination of dirt and synthetics. I have accepted it, you may tell me it is an unfair surface, but seeing a sprinter stretch out on dirt on a speed favoring surface and running like an energizer bunny, is this fair also? Is this a superior/better surface?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by CSC

What's not serious about this? Or is this a dirt-centric bias working here. Like it or not, racing today is a combination of dirt and synthetics. I have accepted it, you may tell me it is an unfair surface, but seeing a sprinter stretch out on dirt on a speed favoring surface and running like an energizer bunny, is this fair also? Is this a superior/better surface?

Racing in America has been dirt-centric for quite some time now. . . like ummm forever. Synthetics are not here to stay and will never compare in any way to a fair dirt track. To put them on equal terms is absurd, but it's to be expected from you.

[Smooth Operator]

Euro runners must really suck since they don't race on "real dirt"...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Racing in America has been dirt-centric for quite some time now. . . like ummm forever. Synthetics are not here to stay and will never compare in any way to a fair dirt track. To put them on equal terms is absurd, but it's to be expected from you.

I think my point was since we have only 3-4 major dirt tracks running at the moment, the form for the classic will come down to these tracks barring the European shippers and we both know they do not race on dirt over there. Just as it was for the Classic in 09. A fact many have stated it was a watered down classic because no dirt horse could succeed over that surface. I have a question, what happens if a synth horse wins the classic? When or if it happens, will the $hit hit the fan here?

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Euro runners must really suck since they don't race on "real dirt"...

Quarter horse must suck since they don't race very far, and steeplechase horses must suck because they race too far.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

But aren't half the Major tracks in NA on synth and half on dirt? You can say the same thing this year at CD. Half the horses that should be at CD will not be there or won't be as effective. Does that diminish this year's Classic because of this?

no. new york is all dirt, churchill's dirt, so is fla, louisiana, arkansas, md...

and thankfully, one less cali track will be on the fake stuff soon.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

Why do you post here? To make idiotic comments about races
/horses after the fact, or to just name call? It's a tough call but I'll say it's a tie for all of the above.

I've told you this before.

But, to reiterate.

First came the Horse Whisperer.

Next came the Dog Whisperer.

Then the Ghost Whisperer.

I am the Tard Whisperer. My purpose here on Earth is to get tards to see the light.

Clearly I am unqualified when it comes to certain tards though.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I've told you this before.

But, to reiterate.

First came the Horse Whisperer.

Next came the Dog Whisperer.

Then the Ghost Whisperer.

I am the Tard Whisperer. My purpose here on Earth is to get tards to see the light.

Clearly I am unqualified when it comes to certain tards though.

Tard is an appropiate word for you to use, do you want me to add you to my PM list so we can continue you this in private, I'll make a special case for you. I will add your name IC, though right now I can think of better words that fit your profile. No, it doesn't start with Z and ends with A. How about Guano?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

Tard is an appropiate word for you to use, do you want me to add you to my PM list so we can continue you this in private, I'll make a special case for you. I will add your name IC, though right now I can think of better words that fit your profile. No, it doesn't start with Z and ends with A. How about Guano?

Sure. Whatever works for ya.