Twirling Candy Love....

[RockHardTen1985]

Does he deserve all of this or not?


http://www.drf.com/blogs/twirling-candy-brilliance

http://www.drf.com/blogs/best-horse-america

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Does he deserve all of this or not?


http://www.drf.com/blogs/twirling-candy-brilliance

http://www.drf.com/blogs/best-horse-america

Brad Free also called Caracortado the best miler in the country in that same blog.

Automatic disqualification by order of the stewards on the recommendation of the track psychotherapist.

Caracortado won a 9f race restricted to FL- and CA-breds. At least we know Free's not being subsidized by Jenny Craig (the way Jay Hovdey was by the Moss's), else he would have reserved that mantle for her other run-off, Sidney's Candy.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Brad Free also called Caracortado the best miler in the country in that same blog.

Automatic disqualification by order of the stewards on the recommendation of the track psychotherapist.

Caracortado won a 9f race restricted to FL- and CA-breds. At least we know Free's not being subsidized by Jenny Craig (the way Jay Hovdey was by the Moss's), else he would have reserved that mantle for her other run-off, Sidney's Candy.

I know. Talmo should stick with Fluke. Horse can run.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I know. Talmo should stick with Fluke. Horse can run.

The only problem seems to be that Fluke only runs once every 6 months. How likely is it he'll show for the Kilroe?

Someone should take the ankle monitor off of Gary Tanaka.

Then at least the hard knocker Proudinsky would probably make a few more starts per year.

[letswastemoney]

If there is a best horse in America, that horse wouldn't have wins in only 1 state.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Does he deserve all of this or not?


http://www.drf.com/blogs/twirling-candy-brilliance

http://www.drf.com/blogs/best-horse-america

It takes a pretty good horse to win the last two races Twirling Candy won especially in dominating fashion. Not many have won those two races in the same set. I've always liked this horse and thought he could be special if he ran more. He is set for a big year finally.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

It takes a pretty good horse to win the last two races Twirling Candy won especially in dominating fashion. Not many have won those two races in the same set. I've always liked this horse and thought he could be special if he ran more. He is set for a big year finally.

He's not very good.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

It takes a pretty good horse to win the last two races Twirling Candy won especially in dominating fashion. Not many have won those two races in the same set. I've always liked this horse and thought he could be special if he ran more. He is set for a big year finally.

He didn't dominate the Malibu in any way, shape, or form.

His race yesterday was good but, as has been said already, he has to beat someone better than Dweebster before he's crowned the best horse on the face of the earth.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

He's not very good.

Whos better right now, anywhere from 7-9f. Im sure he will love 10f on dirt, not that other crap.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He didn't dominate the Malibu in any way, shape, or form.

His race yesterday was good but, as has been said already, he has to beat someone better than Dweebster before he's crowned the best horse on the face of the earth.

Who would he need to beat? Twirling Candy would rip Morning Line's guts out. Morning Line is awesome his heart is amazing he just isnt fast enough. He now has lost to Dakota Phone and Giant Oak while running his A race!

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Who would he need to beat? Twirling Candy would rip Morning Line's guts out. Morning Line is awesome his heart is amazing he just isnt fast enough. He now has lost to Dakota Phone and Giant Oak while running his A race!

I guess I was right.

You've repressed the memory of the Goodwood.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I guess I was right.

You've repressed the memory of the Goodwood.

These run off types that never learn to rate and use their natural ability as learned sometimes dont figure it out race one. But you knew that you simply didnt believe that Twirling Candy would "get it" but now he sits garden stalking trips and rates with ease. Imagine that John where's Yoko?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

These run off types that never learn to rate and use their natural ability as learned sometimes dont figure it out race one. But you knew that you simply didnt believe that Twirling Candy would "get it" but now he sits garden stalking trips and rates with ease. Imagine that John where's Yoko?

Apparently you repressed the first half mile of the Strub as well.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Apparently you repressed the first half mile of the Strub as well.

The more you dig the deeper the hole gets.. Again,learning is a process. So while the Goodward was bad and the Strub was rough the San Anton was better and the Cap will be even better. maybe I can make it easier for you to understand FlippO the more he does it the better he gets. Does that work for you?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The more you dig the deeper the hole gets.. Again,learning is a process. So while the Goodward was bad and the Strub was rough the San Anton was better and the Cap will be even better. maybe I can make it easier for you to understand FlippO the more he does it the better he gets. Does that work for you?

I'll just ignore your massive botch of Twirling Candy's career (the San Antonio was yesterday--he wasn't in it).

Its not a case of the more "he does it, the better he gets", it's "the less he faces, the better he looks". It's a matter of him finding his friends. Note he has not beaten older horses. In that regard, he hasn't shown any dramatic improvement yet, either.

I don't see much of a difference between the Goodwood Twirling Candy and the Strub Twirling Candy.

If someone wants to break it down for me other than the deluded Number 1 Fan Freddy (next he'll be attributing some of Sidney's Candy's accomplishments to Twirling Candy), I'll be happy to listen.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'll just ignore your massive botch of Twirling Candy's career (the San Antonio was yesterday--he wasn't in it).

Its not a case of the more "he does it, the better he gets", it's "the less he faces, the better he looks". It's a matter of him finding his friends. Note he has not beaten older horses. In that regard, he hasn't shown any dramatic improvement yet, either.

I don't see much of a difference between the Goodwood Twirling Candy and the Strub Twirling Candy.

If someone wants to break it down for me other than the deluded Number 1 Fan Freddy (next he'll be attributing some of Sidney's Candy's accomplishments to Twirling Candy), I'll be happy to listen.

A lot of very well respected and highly qualified people other then I don't concur with your flippy self serving reverse engineered swill.

Couldn't rate... learns

Couldn't turn ...Does

Couldn't run two turns..easily

Now its "can't do against a certain quality of horse".. i guess if those horses never materialize you can never consider yourself incorrect.. How convienient John

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

A lot of very well respected and highly qualified people other then I don't concur with your flippy self serving reverse engineered swill.

Couldn't rate... learns

Couldn't turn ...Does

Couldn't run two turns..easily

Now its "can't do against a certain quality of horse".. i guess if those horses never materialize you can never consider yourself incorrect.. How convienient John

The only thing I was wrong about was that he wasn't fast enough early to press Smiling Tiger in the Malibu.

He'll be cutback to sprints and flat miles by year's end, maybe then he'll realize his full potential (ie, a placing in the BC Sprint).

I like how you use being able to negotiate the clubhouse turn without taking out half the field as some sort of landmark in a horse's career. Laughable.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The only thing I was wrong about was that he wasn't fast enough early to press Smiling Tiger in the Malibu.

He'll be cutback to sprints and flat miles by year's end, maybe then he'll realize his full potential (ie, a placing in the BC Sprint). Haven't you already repp'd him as the easy winner of the Big Cap now Fippy if you wins the Big Cap you are off the hook because you posted as such(naturally will get the reversed engineered banter of kaka) or if by some chance he losses the Big Cap you will be glorious in your plan b cut back theory.. Do you always bet heads and tails and lay 6/5 on coin flips flippy. Way to cover your butt wins the Big Cap or will be cutting back can we add will be show jumping somewhere I like how you use being able to negotiate the clubhouse turn without taking out half the field as some sort of landmark in a horse's career. Laughable.I though we covered this but I guess you can get off the cant turn run off easier then a jock.

Are there any other predictions you would like to make?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Are there any other predictions you would like to make?

Your posting skills are improving about as rapidly as you imagined Twirling Candy's racing skills have since last fall.

Again, a lot of this has to do with competition. Of course if he faces a bunch of cream puffs in the Big Cap, which is highly likely, he'll probably win. It won't prove anything.

His superstar status is completely a product of the anemic CA racing industry. Just as Rail Trip's was last year.

Back as recent as the early '90s, horses like Bertrando, In Excess, and Afternoon Deelites were in the position he was in, and he couldn't hold a candle to any of those. All 3 of those failed miserably in the Big Cap (in fact, they were also upset at odds-on in the Strub, when it was run at 10f).

The fact that a horse like this has a chance to win a prestigious race like the Big Cap under such fair weather conditions, not to mention, already--with the aid of a superhighway--erasing Spectacular Bid's world record effort at 7f, is tragedy of the highest order in my eyes.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Your posting skills are improving about as rapidly as you imagined Twirling Candy's racing skills have since last fall.

Again, a lot of this has to do with competition. Of course if he faces a bunch of cream puffs in the Big Cap, which is highly likely, he'll probably win. It won't prove anything.

His superstar status is completely a product of the anemic CA racing industry. Just as Rail Trip's was last year.

Back as recent as the early '90s, horses like Bertrando, In Excess, and Afternoon Deelites were in the position he was in, and he couldn't hold a candle to any of those. All 3 of those failed miserably in the Big Cap (in fact, they were also upset at odds-on in the Strub, when it was run at 10f).

The fact that a horse like this has a chance to win a prestigious race like the Big Cap under such fair weather conditions, not to mention, already--with the aid of a superhighway--erasing Spectacular Bid's world record effort at 7f, is tragedy of the highest order in my eyes.

For the record..Likely winner of the Big Cap or will be a miler?

Rail Trip was never sound and the only person who deemed him a superstar was Team Z

Who cares who raced in 1995 that was 16 years ago and while we all wished the times were different they arent. And BTW the Donn was a rag tag group of nobodys. So it isnt like east coast talent is overwhelming either.

Now you want to cloud the issue with track conditions? The track is what the track is. You like the Calder surface better? They run 1:11 and the BSF is a 115. What do track records have to do with anything?