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Old 03-02-2011, 02:14 PM
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3rd (1:56) Broadway S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Big Brownie Castro E 123 L
2 Lots of Stones Dominguez R A 121 L
3 Meese Rocks Alvarado J 123 L
4 Mineralogist Cohen D 117 L
5 Laylaben Velasquez C 117 L



4th (2:24) Fred "Cappy" Capossela S.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Diski Dance Arroyo A S 116 L
2 Another Silver Oak Santiago V 116 L
3 Rift Valdivia J Jr 116 L
4 Sensational Slam Dominguez R A 120 L
5 Vengeful Wildcat Marquez C H Jr 120 L



5th (2:52) Tom Fool H. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

2 Deputy Daney Rose J 115 L
3 Fastus Cactus Espinoza J L 112 L
1 Have You Ever Santiago V 113 L
4 Dahlgren Chapel Cohen D 114 L
5 Flat Bold Castro E 114 L
1A Calibrachoa Dominguez R A 119 L

A-Coupled: Have You Ever and Calibrachoa



10th (5:12) Gotham S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 The Fed Eased Valdivia J Jr 116 L
2 Nacho Saint Bravo J 116 L
3 Starship Caesar Da Silva E R 116 L
4 Toby's Corner Castro E 120 L
5 Stay Thirsty Dominguez R A 116 L
6 Isn't He Perfect Rodriguez J 116 L
7 Preachintothedevil Alvarado J 116 L
8 Norman Asbjornson Pimentel J 120 L
9 Dawly Velasquez C 116 L
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:39 PM
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WTF?
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:46 PM
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WTF?
Three fields of 5.. Just no stock in town ..I guess
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:17 PM
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interesting card, you got 3 consecutive hcp or graded stakes early
and then a 7500clm before the gotham... guess they wanted to add some difficulty to the late pk4?

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Old 03-04-2011, 01:30 PM
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i know why..but its shamefull compared to gulfstreams card sat
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:06 PM
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Ouch.

I haven't watched the paddock in a long time -- why did they feel a need to add Maggie Wolfendale? I thought I would only have to endure that torture at CNL.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:10 PM
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Going with Starship Caesar over The Fed Eased.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:16 PM
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Castro had a hard hold on Toby's corner in the early part of the race and then he wouldn't switch off till very late...
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:16 PM
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Ouch.

I haven't watched the paddock in a long time -- why did they feel a need to add Maggie Wolfendale? I thought I would only have to endure that torture at CNL.
Because she's like totally qualified. Duh.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:17 PM
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Nice performance from ST, but please don't DQ him
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:18 PM
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Because she's like totally qualified. Duh.
A trainer at CNL said he'd be drunk every minute of his life if he was married to a woman with that voice.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:19 PM
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A trainer at CNL said he'd be drunk every minute of his life if he was married to a woman with that voice.
I'd consider multiple gunshots near both ears.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:22 PM
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Wasn't a great race but considering that it was his first start since the BC, I thought it was a really nice race and should move him in the right direction. I'd think that whatever race they chose for him next out, he should be among the favorites, no matter who else is there.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:24 PM
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Horrible race. No wonder why these horses never run. They ****ing suck. They could race 20 times a year and it wouldn't matter.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:27 PM
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YAY Bernardini!!!!!!
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:28 PM
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I'd consider multiple gunshots near both ears.
Hers or yours?
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:32 PM
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I hope she treats her father right. It would be a shame if she didn't considering all he's done for her.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:47 PM
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Yet another textbook example of why it's so easy for a speed horse to dominate a two-turn Derby prep race.

No one wanted to use there natural speed - although Nacho Saint and Stay Thirsty both charging the gate early and having slow starts contributed to that.

Some horse who broke his maiden at 24/1 odds at Penn National two back got to control a soft pace from the outside and easily ran the race of his life. Put any real horse in that position - and they'd have dominated this race.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:52 PM
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Yet another textbook example of why it's so easy for a speed horse to dominate a two-turn Derby prep race.

No one wanted to use there natural speed - although Nacho Saint and Stay Thirsty both charging the gate early and having slow starts contributed to that.

Some horse who broke his maiden at 24/1 odds at Penn National two back got to control a soft pace from the outside and easily ran the race of his life. Put any real horse in that position - and they'd have dominated this race.
Possibly, but then if that were the case, woudn't ST have been closer to the pace? I missed the beginning of the race, so I assumed ST was further back than usual because they wanted him to rate. In his debut, he wasn't on the lead - he stalked. That might be where he prefers to be.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:57 PM
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Stay Thirsty broke a bit slow - the Nacho horse actually broke open the gate right before the start.

A better start by Stay Thirsty actually would have helped Toby's Corner a little bit - had Stay Thirsty broke well and was positioned forward from the start - Castro wouldn't have been quite as focused on getting into a wrestling match with TC.
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