4/16 (OP): Arkansas Derby (G1), Northern Spur S., Instant Racing S.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Real happy for Jon Court and Jinks Fires...Living the dream. That said, how in the world do you handicap this years Derby. Will the favorite be under 5-1? I was cringing during the race listening to Wallace.

Worst Derby ever?

Originally Posted by lord007

Agreed..

25-1, that was even better

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Thanks. I guess with the race call going the way it did, it's probably a good thing that I didn't have to hear it. Maybe Archarcharch's name will grow on Haskin. What happened with The Factor? Did he not make the lead, and it hit the fan after that?

Never made the lead. Sway Away blew past him on the turn and appeared to be in control but faded to fourth in deep stretch.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Worst Derby ever?

But a great betting race!

[bare it all]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Thanks. I guess with the race call going the way it did, it's probably a good thing that I didn't have to hear it. Maybe Archarcharch's name will grow on Haskin. What happened with The Factor? Did he not make the lead, and it hit the fan after that?

Almost exactly. I think he got bored in the gate, plus JPs Gusto's jock gunned the lead and The Factor just trudged around like a sulking teenager. I think everyone but Bob Baffert was tricked by this pony. No lead = no run.

Archarcharch looked amazing in the post parade and seems a tall, lanky horse - reminds me of a european horse or maybe something from oz.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Thanks. I guess with the race call going the way it did, it's probably a good thing that I didn't have to hear it. Maybe Archarcharch's name will grow on Haskin. What happened with The Factor? Did he not make the lead, and it hit the fan after that?

stalked wide, attempted to move 3 wide around the crows on the turn, had nothing

[somerfrost]

Top two looked pretty good, I do like Archarcharch a bit but he was all out to win.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Worst Derby ever?

You got it.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by pointman

But a great betting race!

Exactly. All the sharp horses coming into the race are all stretch runners. I guess i have to give Mo a mulligan. I hope he shows some spark in his training over at CD. Tough to get a read on Pletcher though, he just never lets his horses do much in the am.

[randallscott35]

R Heat Lightning

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by jms62

And Terry Wallace gets the nod for Worst call in the history of horse racing.

And for his swan song, he gets to call a 1 3/4 race to end the meet...

[bare it all]

Luckily he'll only call about a mile's worth.

[hurricanefrank]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Never made the lead. Sway Away blew past him on the turn and appeared to be in control but faded to fourth in deep stretch.

The Factor can't rate. Period.

[Seattleallstar]

Jaycito is the last hope

[geojr130]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

I still like Archarcharch in the Arkansas Derby.

Nice call didn't see the race yet. I liked him too. Can't bet on oak. fhttps://www.ebetusa.com/racing/rom . Had a ruff day working

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Top two looked pretty good, I do like Archarcharch a bit but he was all out to win.

Although he got a nice pace setup (and the Derby will probably have a similar pace), I liked how well Nehro was closing at the end for the second race in a row. He should relish the extra furlong. The time of 1:49:34 was not bad and is about the same as what Line of David ran last year (beating Super Saver by a neck). Nehro did run once as a 2-year old.

[Merlinsky]

Congratulations to Jon Court. A sentimental favorite, whatever the final odds of Archarcharch.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

Although he got a nice pace setup (and the Derby will probably have a similar pace), I liked how well Nehro was closing at the end for the second race in a row. He should relish the extra furlong. The time of 1:49:34 was not bad and is about the same as what Line of David ran last year (beating Super Saver by a neck). Nehro did run once as a 2-year old.

He's easily as good a horse as Dialed In and should be a larger price.

[LARHAGE]

I think Sway Away could have made a better showing if he didn't go all in at the 3/8 pole, way premature move. I couldn't believe how bad that race call was I thought the sound went out on my TV, he's brutal.

[Seattleallstar]

I dont know about TVG people, but their stream was non existent to horrible during the race. This is why these races should be shown on TV, probably a million people using the same feed for the race, created alot of latency in connection.