Newt Gingrich! for President! 2012 !

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Whatever troll. I start my vacation in the morning and the best thing about the vacation is that it is going to be a Riot and JMS62 free vacation. Talk about me all you to when I won't be on here . It won't hurt me at all. Deny all you want to about using GFY.

Tell you what, Nascar: I'll pay you a dollar for every time I've told another poster to GFY in my last 500 posts. But you also have to agree to pay me a dollar for every time you've told another poster to GFY in your last 100 posts.

(and yes, we can see when posts have been post-edited)

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Obamacare" is in effect now. Tell me how you've suffered.

As I said my insurance went up not down not to mention I've been prejudiced against, as I have no waiver.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Republicans in the 1990's (and before) were always in favor of universal health care.

If that's true, how do you explain 1993?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by miraja2

If that's true, how do you explain 1993?

Politics. And Hilary's involvement. None of them can stand the other parties success. If Teddy Kennedy hadn't freaked out about it not being aggressive enough, we'd all have had Richard Nixon's mandated health care from our employers years ago. As it is, much of what ended up in the PPACA has plenty of Republican history and previous recommendation. They can't stand that a Dem finally gets credit for passing something (because most of us realize the PPACA isn't any aggressive or major "socalized medicine" overhaul. It's some tweeks to administration by private companies, in an effort to simply better provide consumer protections to people within the current system)

It's strange, what the GOP has turned into, in the past 5-6 years. Very bizzaro.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Politics. And Hilary's involvement. None of them can stand the other parties success. If Teddy Kennedy hadn't freaked out about it not being aggressive enough, we'd all have had Richard Nixon's mandated health care from our employers years ago. As it is, much of what ended up in the PPACA has plenty of Republican history and previous recommendation. They can't stand that a Dem finally gets credit for passing something (because most of us realize the PPACA isn't any aggressive or major "socalized medicine" overhaul. It's some tweeks to administration by private companies, in an effort to simply better provide consumer protections to people within the current system)

It's strange, what the GOP has turned into, in the past 5-6 years. Very bizzaro.

I think the conservative counterrevolution goes back a bit further, and I think you may be underestimating how ideologically opposed many Republicans in Congress were to health care reform by 1993.
You are surely correct that the Republican "conservatism" of the Nixon/Goldwater/Rockefeller era was a whole lot different than it is today, but I don't think it just suddenly changed in the W era. The Post-Regan Republicans of the 90s were already pretty set in their anti-government (by the standards of the 60s and 70s) ways.

[Danzig]

i don't think it has so much to do with who comes up with the idea-it's how citizens react to ideas, and the pols need for re-election.
look at the defense of marriage act. who signed it? and why? it all comes down to political points. at the time, the majority was against gay marriage. now, that's changed, and so has the govt in response.
the govt. doesn't change the people, it's the opposite.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

he's the best choice as far as conservatives go. He's probably most intelligent man (at least for running a government) that will be involved in the 2012 race, both parties included.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

STFU

Originally Posted by Danzig

seriously?


GOP Rep. Ron Paul stands by his comments the United States should have told Pakistan that American officials were aware of Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts before conducting the raid that led to his demise, Politico reports.

“Why are we having trouble with the [Pakistani] government, why are we stirring up a civil war in Pakistan? It's because we’ve been bombing it," Paul said on "Fox News Sunday."

Paul, who announced Friday he is running for the GOP presidential nomination, said his opposition to the U.S. mission to kill bin Laden is indicative of his non-interventionist foreign policy.

If Ron Paul and his beliefs were in place 30 years ago then there wouldn't be a bin Laden.

Think about that.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

If Ron Paul and his beliefs were in place 30 years ago then there wouldn't be a bin Laden.

Think about that.

I actually won a race and CP is back...it really is the end

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I actually won a race and CP is back...it really is the end

Congrats gonna go watch the victory now.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Congrats gonna go watch the victory now.

It's actually a good one

Originally Posted by GBBob

I actually won a race and CP is back...it really is the end

Bob...congrats on the win. I perused the smart threads and noticed you won race 9 on a Saturday at Arlington. That purse is bulls.hit. Looks like even big ol' Arlington Park is in a McRecovery.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Bob...congrats on the win. I perused the smart threads and noticed you won race 9 on a Saturday at Arlington. That purse is bulls.hit. Looks like even big ol' Arlington Park is in a McRecovery.

Monday Race 8 at Parx. That (seriously) is a big'un..could be a fun summer with him.

and..thnx

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

It's actually a good one

Yes it was.

Originally Posted by GBBob

Monday Race 8 at Parx. That (seriously) is a big'un..could be a fun summer with him.

and..thnx

Bet you wouldn't mind a fast track eh? Gonna make 110?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Bet you wouldn't mind a fast track eh? Gonna make 110?

shoot man..85 and on to the next. Beggers can't be choosers.

He just needs to win this race. He's gelded , healthy and isn't going anywhere. It's not the like the olders are SNL/Timberlake

Originally Posted by GBBob

shoot man..85 and on to the next. Beggers can't be choosers.

He just needs to win this race. He's gelded , healthy and isn't going anywhere. It's not the the olders are SNL/Timberlake

I can't mush you dude. Plus I hate betting on my blackberry. Every Nerdy Trailing Degenerate (N.T.D.)© and Brisnerd in the country will be firing on it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

If Ron Paul and his beliefs were in place 30 years ago then there wouldn't be a bin Laden.

Think about that.

and if my aunt had a d..k she'd be my uncle. and there is no bin laden now, yay.




welcome back.

Originally Posted by Danzig

and if my aunt had a d..k she'd be my uncle. and there is no bin laden now, yay.




welcome back.

That's a defeatist way to look at it.


The Afghan Mujahideen was armed, trained and funded by the CIA. Now you're going to find mostly denial and propaganda from the mainstream media on this issue.

But all you have to do is look at the times back in 1979-1989 and you can clearly see that Russia was our #1 enemy.

Look at our funding of rebels in Libya, which I'm sure they will continue to deny that any Al Qaeda is involved.

Don't stop believing.

Thanks on the friendly welcome back.