Week/Weekend Beyers: Caleb/Mo 106; Stay Thirsty 101

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Does Caleb's Posse shoot for the Sprint at 6F or the Dirt Mile at 1m?

Does anyone else think Mo and Shackleford should go for the Dirt Mile instead of the Classic?

Not me.

I think Mo will be deadly at 10f.

Then again, I've been without Internet access for over two days now, and as far as I know, Mo might have been retired by now.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by asudevil

DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105......Will never see dirt

He's run on dirt multiple times. I get the impression that the owner will be more worried about top class Euros in the Turf than anything that may go in the Classic.

If he doesn't go in the Classic he probably won't be in the BC period (he's not eligible).

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think Mo will be deadly at 10f.

Even if he could go 10f, he has no time to prepare for it. He'd be lucky to do as well as French Deputy, Hold That Tiger, or Formal Gold should he go in the Classic.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Even if he could go 10f, he has no time to prepare for it. He'd be lucky to do as well as French Deputy, Hold That Tiger, or Formal Gold should he go in the Classic.

Obviously time is an issue.

However, FD and FG faced MUCH MUCH MUCH better horses than anything that might be in the gate come this years BCC.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by freddymo

10 STARTS? The under over is 5.5 lay 125 under

I'll take the over....he is long and sturdy looking with a nice way of going

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

I'll take the over....he is long and sturdy looking with a nice way of going

Keep going with your thoughts they can copy and paste them once he is retired for his stallion page. Didn't Kimmel have a nice horse with Gindi last year?

[Indian Charlie]

I don't know about no Beyers, but Uncle Mo's winning type performance has restored my faith in horse racing.

[analyizethis]

The current odds on the Wynn website show Uncle Mo at 50 - 1. I'm not a fan of future bets but that looks like value to me. If they can get him back to anywhere near the horse that ran last year in the BC the big question will be 10 panels but if he just makes it to the starting gate he'll be less than 10 -1.

William Hill has Uncle Mo future posted at 8 - 1 for the BC Classics the same as Tizway. His stable mate Stay Thirsty is the shortest price at 7 - 1. They offered up one Euro, Await The Dawn (10-1), a son of Giant's Causeway out of a Dixieland Band mare owned by Coolmore, who has 5 wins in 7 starts, looks to be a 10 furlong specialist and the ATR website indicates his next propable start to be in the QEII, a one mile group 1 at Ascot on October 15.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...p-Classic.html

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by analyizethis

The current odds on the Wynn website show Uncle Mo at 50 - 1. I'm not a fan of future bets but that looks like value to me. If they can get him back to anywhere near the horse that ran last year in the BC the big question will be 10 panels but if he just makes it to the starting gate he'll be less than 10 -1.

William Hill has Uncle Mo future posted at 8 - 1 for the BC Classics the same as Tizway. His stable mate Stay Thirsty is the shortest price at 7 - 1. They offered up one Euro, Await The Dawn (10-1), a son of Giant's Causeway out of a Dixieland Band mare owned by Coolmore, who has 5 wins in 7 starts, looks to be a 10 furlong specialist and the ATR website indicates his next propable start to be in the QEII, a one mile group 1 at Ascot on October 15.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...p-Classic.html

I'm thinking for Stay Thirsty to win the BCC this year, it would need to be a walkover.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm thinking for Stay Thirsty to win the BCC this year, it would need to be a walkover.

The 3-year-old crop is truly puke... but he's emerged as the best router and soundest of it. I suppose he has to show some people he isn't a Saratoga horse like Laywer Ron .. as he's run his best races at both age 2 and 3 here.

The triple crown lead-in was comedy unlike no other -- the triple crown series was comedy (first-time dirt wins the KY Derby, Shakleford the Preakness, Ruler on Ice the Belmont -- and Animal Kingdom was easily the star of that series)

The Haskell was so freaking slow -- that Quiet Giant ran a faster number on the card winning some garbage stake race. I think the Haskell got the 3rd highest Beyer of the days four route races ... only a cheap starter alw race was somehow slower than the Haskell among the routes.

Stay Thirsty was the only horse in the Travers who didn't run like a complete pig.

This group is almost as slow as the Sea Hero group from 1993.

The Breeders Cup Juveniles are being won with record or near record speed figures every year. Stevie Wonderboy's win was smoking fast, Street Sense's win was smoking fast, War Pass's win was smoking fast, Uncle Mo's win was smoking fast. Shame that only Street Sense held it together. All of them ran BC Juvie figures that would have drowned Arazi.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The 3-year-old crop is truly puke... but he's emerged as the best router and soundest of it. I suppose he has to show some people he isn't a Saratoga horse like Laywer Ron .. as he's run his best races at both age 2 and 3 here.

The triple crown lead-in was comedy unlike no other -- the triple crown series was comedy (first-time dirt wins the KY Derby, Shakleford the Preakness, Ruler on Ice the Belmont -- and Animal Kingdom was easily the star of that series)

The Haskell was so freaking slow -- that Quiet Giant ran a faster number on the card winning some garbage stake race. I think the Haskell got the 3rd highest Beyer of the days four route races ... only a cheap starter alw race was somehow slower than the Haskell among the routes.

Stay Thirsty was the only horse in the Travers who didn't run like a complete pig.

This group is almost as slow as the Sea Hero group from 1993.

The Breeders Cup Juveniles are being won with record or near record speed figures every year. Stevie Wonderboy's win was smoking fast, Street Sense's win was smoking fast, War Pass's win was smoking fast, Uncle Mo's win was smoking fast. Shame that only Street Sense held it together. All of them ran BC Juvie figures that would have drowned Arazi.

I'm not so convinced that he's the best 3yo router, but perhaps of the top ones, he is the soundest.

Also, as pathetic as the older horses are, I'm having trouble seeing Stay Thirsty beating the top ones that are in training, as of now.

[Calzone Lord]

The older males are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

The older females are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

To Honor and Serve, Uncle Mo, and The Factor all looked good last week at least. It's Stay Thirsty's division for now

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The older males are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

The older females are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

To Honor and Serve, Uncle Mo, and The Factor all looked good last week at least. It's Stay Thirsty's division for now

Heck, I think at this point, there might not be much difference between ST and THAS. Going 10 at CD though, if Mo is still around, I don't see ST beating him.

You know, I don't think I can come up with any three year old this year that has more than a single grade one win this year!

[analyizethis]

No three year old colts have won more than one Grade 1 race. It's Tricky, a filly, has won two Grade 1 stakes.

[Indian Charlie]

They should give Uncle Mo champion three year old honors for his two grade one wins as a two year old.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

This group is almost as slow as the Sea Hero group from 1993.

Ironically, 3yos finished 1-2 in the Jockey Club Gold Cup that year. I think another 3yo was even favored in the race (Diazo).

Of course, those same two 3yos were last and second last in the BC Classic in their next start. Kissin Kris was able to get 3rd place to save some face for the 3yo crop at least.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The older males are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

The older females are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

To Honor and Serve, Uncle Mo, and The Factor all looked good last week at least. It's Stay Thirsty's division for now

Tizway and who??? Flat Out?