Timmy Ice Tebow...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

If they do happen to beat New England next week it will be only because "the Pats D is injured" or "they are the worst Pats team for years" all while the Pats keep winning and winning...

exactly. its annoying and stupid. "Timmy's only 6-1 because he's played 6 crappy teams" nonsense.

Though I wouldn't put $ on Denver beating the Pats.. Tom Brady is still the man.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

exactly. its annoying and stupid. "Timmy's only 6-1 because he's played 6 crappy teams" nonsense.

Though I wouldn't put $ on Denver beating the Pats.. Tom Brady is still the man.

It's not nonsense. They've beaten four lousy teams and two decent teams playing with handicaps. He deserves credit for playing well at the end of games, but do you honestly think they have a prayer of winning a playoff game with him at quarterback?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

If they do happen to beat New England next week it will be only because "the Pats D is injured" or "they are the worst Pats team for years" all while the Pats keep winning and winning...

Im a die hard Pats fan and I will tell you we are not winning a Super Bowl this year. No vertical thread, no pound the ball running game and the D has been ****. This is finally Baltimores year to come out. With that being said, we can handle Denver home or away.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not nonsense. They've beaten four lousy teams and two decent teams playing with handicaps. He deserves credit for playing well at the end of games, but do you honestly think they have a prayer of winning a playoff game with him at quarterback?

It all depends on who the team is, and if they make the playoffs they will likely be at home. If its the Jets, and your a Jets fan how much confidence would you have going into Denver? I would like Denver alot vs the Jets or Titans. It all depends on who makes it in.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

It all depends on who the team is, and if they make the playoffs they will likely be at home. If its the Jets, and your a Jets fan how much confidence would you have going into Denver? I would like Denver alot vs the Jets or Titans. It all depends on who makes it in.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Jets would beat them in the playoffs. By double digits. Please don't forget that Tebow did absolutely nothing against my defense before finally putting together one very good drive.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Jets would beat them in the playoffs. By double digits. Please don't forget that Tebow did absolutely nothing against my defense before finally putting together one very good drive.

Im not saying Tebow is the man though. The Jets did not do much with the ball in that game. I feel like thats the matchup Denver needs. Somehow the Jets or Titans. If not they are 1 and done if they even get in. Im not even saying they will def. beat the Jets, I just think they will have a good chance. Im not making any Joey S lock predictions though. I still like Oakland, but they wont win this week.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not nonsense. They've beaten four lousy teams and two decent teams playing with handicaps. He deserves credit for playing well at the end of games, but do you honestly think they have a prayer of winning a playoff game with him at quarterback?

yes, because of their defense and because they don't turn it over and can control the clock with rushing (as long as they get 1st downs).

and it is nonsense. there is a lot of warranted criticism (throwing motion, completion percentage), but that is not one of them. He's won 4 games on the road. That's difficult no matter who you play (again, except the Colts). This is the NFL, it's not like they are the LSU Tigers scheduling some D-1AA school. 6-1 is a great record for a starter, no matter what division, what league and what your schedule looks like.

Every single week, the critics say "Denver can't beat so and so".. and then they go win. GBBOB should be eating some crow, even if Denver loses out.

John Fox makes great game plans to focus on the teams strengths (andy reid.. take some fucl<ing notes). The teammates believe in one another and believe they will win. Coaching and leadership helps overcome some inabilities. Tebow is improving as a passer every week. against the Vikings, he was accurate and led his receivers to the right spots with his passes. he was 10-15, with two bad drops (one would have been a TD) and one pass was thrown out of bounds to avoid a sack. So out of 15 throws, only 2 were off target.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not nonsense. They've beaten four lousy teams and two decent teams playing with handicaps. He deserves credit for playing well at the end of games, but do you honestly think they have a prayer of winning a playoff game with him at quarterback?

really hard to tell...hell, the seahawks beat the saints last year. depends on who they face.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah Cam Newton is a phony, selfish thug with a pimp for a father.

Cam Newton is none of those things.
I can understand how a Bama fan would have so much hate though. He did break your heart last year.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yes, because of their defense and because they don't turn it over and can control the clock with rushing (as long as they get 1st downs).

and it is nonsense. there is a lot of warranted criticism (throwing motion, completion percentage), but that is not one of them. He's won 4 games on the road. That's difficult no matter who you play (again, except the Colts). This is the NFL, it's not like they are the LSU Tigers scheduling some D-1AA school. 6-1 is a great record for a starter, no matter what division, what league and what your schedule looks like.

Every single week, the critics say "Denver can't beat so and so".. and then they go win. GBBOB should be eating some crow, even if Denver loses out.

John Fox makes great game plans to focus on the teams strengths (andy reid.. take some fucl<ing notes). The teammates believe in one another and believe they will win. Coaching and leadership helps overcome some inabilities. Tebow is improving as a passer every week. against the Vikings, he was accurate and led his receivers to the right spots with his passes. he was 10-15, with two bad drops (one would have been a TD) and one pass was thrown out of bounds to avoid a sack. So out of 15 throws, only 2 were off target.

Great game plans? WOW. If anything he has butchered Tebow? Why are they trash for 3 quarters then unstopable late? If it has to be uptempo all game it should be. The coaching is bad in Denver right now.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Cam Newton is none of those things.
I can understand how a Bama fan would have so much hate though. He did break your heart last year.

how can you disagree that Newton's father is a pimp?

Newton was a selfish thug in college. He seems to have matured though.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not saying Tebow is the man though. The Jets did not do much with the ball in that game. I feel like thats the matchup Denver needs. Somehow the Jets or Titans. If not they are 1 and done if they even get in. Im not even saying they will def. beat the Jets, I just think they will have a good chance. Im not making any Joey S lock predictions though. I still like Oakland, but they wont win this week.

They both have tough schedules down the stretch. The Broncos catch a break with the Bears being badly beat up this week. But then they have the Pats at home, @ Buffalo and home for KC. While the Raiders are @ GB, home for the Lions, @ KC and home for the Chargers. It really could go either way.
I think I would give a slight advantage to the Raiders just because I tink they will beat the Lions at home next week versus the Broncos losing this week (despite all the injuries to the Bears).

But if the Broncos do get in, I think the only way they don't go one and done is if they catch the Titans in the first round. Otherwise they are toast.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Cam Newton is none of those things.
I can understand how a Bama fan would have so much hate though. He did break your heart last year.

bullsh!t. cam and his father had wheeling and dealing going on. the fact the ncaa didn't do squat means nothing in that regard.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

They both have tough schedules down the stretch. The Broncos catch a break with the Bears being badly beat up this week. But then they have the Pats at home, @ Buffalo and home for KC. While the Raiders are @ GB, home for the Lions, @ KC and home for the Chargers. It really could go either way.
I think I would give a slight advantage to the Raiders just because I tink they will beat the Lions at home next week versus the Broncos losing this week (despite all the injuries to the Bears).


But if the Broncos do get in, I think the only way they don't go one and done is if they catch the Titans in the first round. Otherwise they are toast.

Denver is supposed to finish 3-1 if they are legit. Anything else tells me they are no good.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Great game plans? WOW. If anything he has butchered Tebow? Why are they trash for 3 quarters then unstopable late? If it has to be uptempo all game it should be. The coaching is bad in Denver right now.

??????

He changed the entire offensive playbook to fit Tebow! He coaches a top defense! If Denver makes the Playoffs then Fox is right up with with Harbaugh for Coach of the year, IMO.

Look at the one game he made Tebow a drop back passer (lions) and tell me again that Fox doesnt put together great game plans.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

??????

He changed the entire offensive playbook to fit Tebow! He coaches a top defense! If Denver makes the Playoffs then Fox is right up with with Harbaugh for Coach of the year, IMO.

Look at the one game he made Tebow a drop back passer (lions) and tell me again that Fox doesnt put together great game plans.

Im not a fan of Fox. It makes no sense to me that this guy can be unstopable late in games, and look so bad that people say he does not belong in the NFL early in games. Plus rumor is Fox and Elway dont want Tebow. They dont want him to do well, and they want to draft there QB. Might be to late for all that.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not a fan of Fox. It makes no sense to me that this guy can be unstopable late in games, and look so bad that people say he does not belong in the NFL early in games. Plus rumor is Fox and Elway dont want Tebow. They dont want him to do well, and they want to draft there QB. Might be to late for all that.

Elway might think that but I dont believe Fox does. You can tell by his quotes about Tebow. Bullshit Fox doesnt want him to do well, he's a head coach in the NFL, your job is always on the line (unless you coach the eagles).

I think they are better in the 2nd half because they are pretty much the only team in football that runs the Option offense. You have no idea how the opposing teams defense will gameplan for that offense. So, once you get an idea.. Fox makes good adjustments at halftime.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Elway might think that but I dont believe Fox does. You can tell by his quotes about Tebow. Bullshit Fox doesnt want him to do well, he's a head coach in the NFL, your job is always on the line (unless you coach the eagles).

I think they are better in the 2nd half because they are pretty much the only team in football that runs the Option offense. You have no idea how the opposing teams defense will gameplan for that offense. So, once you get an idea.. Fox makes good adjustments at halftime.

Once again the defense should get some credit for keeping them in these games where the offense isn't lighting it up.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Once again the defense should get some credit for keeping them in these games where the offense isn't lighting it up.

certainly. the D is the reason the team is 6-1 in the past 7 games.

[herkhorse]

good god, , you guys are all getting paid to be doing something else at least, right?