Luck

[Left Bank]

The jockey agent is the best!

[declansharbor]

Two obervations.

Gary Stevens plays an awesome role.

Jerry couldnt play cards to save his life. Next time he gets it in on top will also serve as his first.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Luxor Las Vegas

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This image was on the news tonight when they were talking about a legionnaires outbreak at the hotel.

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Even right-wing talk show host Michael Savage weighed in (negatively) on it last night. He complained that it was just another "Hollow-wood" creation of aging west coast morally bankrupt hippies, and featuring a couple of past their prime actors totally miscast. He did take a couple of calls from authentic-sounding race track guys from New York who tried to fill him in on what the game is all about.

Ocala Mike

Is there anything that this idiot even likes? He complains about everything. He is a walking hypocrite.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

This image was on the news tonight when they were talking about a legionnaires outbreak at the hotel.

Tragic.

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Is there anything that this idiot even likes? He complains about everything. He is a walking hypocrite.

I listen to him, not for his politics, but because he and I were schoolmates at Jamaica High School and Queens College in New York during the late 50's and early 60's.

I would say he likes, not necessarily in this order, boating around SF Bay, his two dogs, good food and wine, and (especially) himself. Not so much a hypocrite as a narcissist.


Ocala Mike

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

I listen to him, not for his politics, but because he and I were schoolmates at Jamaica High School and Queens College in New York during the late 50's and early 60's.

I would say he likes, not necessarily in this order, boating around SF Bay, his two dogs, good food and wine, and (especially) himself. Not so much a hypocrite as a narcissist.


Ocala Mike

Michael Weiner (Savage) is an opportunist who will be or say whatever makes the most money/ratings.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Michael Weiner (Savage) is an opportunist who will be or say whatever makes the most money/ratings.

Isn't that true for most radio/TV "hosts"?

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

I listen to him, not for his politics, but because he and I were schoolmates at Jamaica High School and Queens College in New York during the late 50's and early 60's.

I would say he likes, not necessarily in this order, boating around SF Bay, his two dogs, good food and wine, and (especially) himself. Not so much a hypocrite as a narcissist.


Ocala Mike

He's a piece of s.hit.

[Calzone Lord]

I still think Luck would have had a much higher ceiling as a show if it would have been set in the late 1800's when the takeout rates were under 5%, when horse bettors made absolute fortunes, when horse bettors dated the best actresses from plays, when the press frequently wrote about them in the papers, and when a few of the more notorious ones did crazy sh!t all the time.

Not that it detracts any from the show -- but you have a guy who lost his last dollar playing poker the night before, he's broke, and he shows up at the track with a napkin that has a $3,240 pick six play on it.

As for the $3,240 play on the napkin... it's 3 by 1 by 4 by 5 by 3 by 9

He singles a horse off of a 2-year layoff that went off at more than 12/1 odds even though his own trainer bet $3,000 to win on him.

Next time there's a big pick six carryover somewhere -- try that -- show up, tell people you don't have any money on you, but give them a 3K + Pick 6 play with a double digit longshot singled.

The guys who made fortunes betting horses in the late 1800's -- that would translate to fortunes worth tens of millions of dollars today -- they did it without any luck. They did it in a time when horse racing was one of the three major sports in New York along with Baseball and Boxing ... and in some big cities outside of New York, horse racing was bigger than any other sport.

Seemed like it would have been such a perfect fit for Milch -- because Deadwood was 1870's in about the same time range as the start of the goldenest of golden eras for the horse bettor. And an era when some real shady, violent, and interesting stuff did happen in horse racing. There will never be another person assosicated with horse racing who is even 1/100th as intersting as Plunger Walton.

All beside the point -- it takes nothing away from Luck. The days of horse bettors having national and even international celebrity are over. The racing is at least more honest and tightly regulated now... but that doesn't suit the time peroid for a drama series.

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Isn't that true for most radio/TV "hosts"?

No, MOST actually believe in the lunacy they spew out.

[Kasept]

Chicago Tribune with a review suggesting dubious viewers to stick with it..

[analyizethis]

For the "newbie" a nice glossary of terms also in the article.

Watched both episodes. MEHHHHHH. Sorry don't like it at all. I was contemplating putting cholula in my eyes when the gamblers were on screen.

And what's with the pro-America nonsense in both episodes? Like there isn't horse racing anywhere else. Boo.

[goingtothewhip]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Watched both episodes. MEHHHHHH. Sorry don't like it at all. I was contemplating putting cholula in my eyes when the gamblers were on screen.

And what's with the pro-America nonsense in both episodes? Like there isn't horse racing anywhere else. Boo.

I noticed the "America" stuff too, but I think that is leading more to the idea of the "american dream" than patriotism. The idea that with hard work, perseverance, and a little luck... a person can get rich in this country.
Examples being Turo Escalante- immigrant who goes from selling carrots to top horse trainer. The jockeys, the gamblers, and I imagine Ace are going to be from humble beginnings as well. Think Horatio Alger more than Reagan.

[richard]

Just watched the pilot. A gritty episode set against the beauty of Santa Anita. My late friend used to say that the track is a Disneyland for adults. I found it fascinating and can't wait for more.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by goingtothewhip

I noticed the "America" stuff too, but I think that is leading more to the idea of the "american dream" than patriotism. The idea that with hard work, perseverance, and a little luck... a person can get rich in this country.
Examples being Turo Escalante- immigrant who goes from selling carrots to top horse trainer. The jockeys, the gamblers, and I imagine Ace are going to be from humble beginnings as well. Think Horatio Alger more than Reagan.

I think this is spot-on, and I would venture that, particularly with the gamblers, the American fantasy of "get rich quick" will be explored. It sure seems from the scenes from upcoming episodes, that for the winners of the Pick-6, things are going to get a lot worse.

Makes me think of the old saying, "Behind every great fortune, there's a great crime."

And I guess the season will end just in time for Game of Thrones, so win all around.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Watched both episodes. MEHHHHHH. Sorry don't like it at all. I was contemplating putting cholula in my eyes when the gamblers were on screen.

And what's with the pro-America nonsense in both episodes? Like there isn't horse racing anywhere else. Boo.

I just watched the 2nd episode and thought is was TERRIFIC. In this kind of format it takes more than a few shows to establish and get to know characters. By the end of the first season and into next year I think this show is going to be a huge hit. Hope so!!

What Vic said; characters are being developed nicely, and I'm sure the plot elements will all start coming together.


Ocala Mike

[Rudeboyelvis]

They need subtitles.

Between Nick Nolte grunting his lines like he permanently constipated, and the Escalante character, it's impossible to understand what the hell is even being said.