2011-2012 NHL playoff thread.

[Danzig]

mario used to be a voice against shenanigans like yesterday. i guess that's no longer the case. of course, as long as he kept cook on the roster, it was pretty evident he didn't walk the walk while talking the talk. i haven't gone and watched the infamous evander kane knockout of that bozo in a while; i guess it's time!

and malkin yesterday...kept his hands to himself until someone else grabbed a flyer to keep the guy off him, so then he decides to give a shove. they've completely lost all composure, jsut like in the game that caused the glass jaw incident i cited above.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ype03NPym2o


couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

mario used to be a voice against shenanigans like yesterday. i guess that's no longer the case. of course, as long as he kept cook on the roster, it was pretty evident he didn't walk the walk while talking the talk. i haven't gone and watched the infamous evander kane knockout of that bozo in a while; i guess it's time!

and malkin yesterday...kept his hands to himself until someone else grabbed a flyer to keep the guy off him, so then he decides to give a shove. they've completely lost all composure, jsut like in the game that caused the glass jaw incident i cited above.

Oh, you mean he's on the playoff roster?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Oh, you mean he's on the playoff roster?

that's why neal went after couterier imo, he's been shutting geno and sid down.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

apparently, in this series, they're more worried about how quickly you can drop your gloves.

enjoy the game?

It was fun. Though with the Phils and Mets also playing next door made the walk from the parking lot to the arena longer than the Grand National. So we stopped by the new Xfinity outdoor tailgate/bar area and got a dose of a few thousand well-oiled nutcases in orange gear, joined them for a few beers, managed to find my seats in the nose bleed section and learned several different ways of telling Sydney Crosby how to F ck himself from the guys in section 224.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

The Penguins were downright disgraceful yesterday. And I was a little embarrassed for Sidney after hearing his comments after the game. The guy's won a Hart, a Cup, and has worn the "C" since he was 21. Act like you've been there before. Could you imagine Lidstrom or Lemieux or Yzerman or Messier or Gretzky or <insert captain here> pulling some of that nonsense that he pulls on a nightly basis? And the Penguins tolerate it - that's the most disappointing part.

This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by 3kings

This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.

i agree with you on the first part.....not so much on the 2nd part

fahk'n flyers fans


-bt-

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was fun. Though with the Phils and Mets also playing next door made the walk from the parking lot to the arena longer than the Grand National. So we stopped by the new Xfinity outdoor tailgate/bar area and got a dose of a few thousand well-oiled nutcases in orange gear, joined them for a few beers, managed to find my seats in the nose bleed section and learned several different ways of telling Sydney Crosby how to F ck himself from the guys in section 224.

i'm sure they can school you in a variety of ways of cursing that one. i'm figuring you weren't wearing a pens jersey, right? i don't think i'd dare wear an away team jersey in that place.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Great in the regular season, bomb in the post season annually. Before this year they had won 4 division titles in a row assuring a high seed and they have won 2 playoff series total. They are talented but can't even get to the conference finals which to me is lack of leadership and guts.

[Danzig]

i am well aware of the caps and their postseason records. been a fan since they started in the league when i was a kid.



asham, neal hearings tomorrow. wonder which of the two hits by neal will get the bigger penalty? couterier wasn't on the puck, he left his feet when he hit the rookie.
than there was his blatant hit on giroux, clearly aiming for the guys' head.

as for asham, i think he should be sent to the khl.

[Danzig]

http://nhl-red-light.si.com/2012/04/...=si_topstories

mayhem reigns...

and they're right, they should have set the tone early on. now it's become a free for all.

i love big hits...but not blatant elbows and cross-checks to the throat, not taking cheap shots or slamming someone who's not even on the puck.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i am well aware of the caps and their postseason records. been a fan since they started in the league when i was a kid.



asham, neal hearings tomorrow. wonder which of the two hits by neal will get the bigger penalty? couterier wasn't on the puck, he left his feet when he hit the rookie.
than there was his blatant hit on giroux, clearly aiming for the guys' head.

as for asham, i think he should be sent to the khl.

The Neal hearings should be interesting. If he doesn't get a game it will continue the NHL's double standard. Suspend the marginal players and let the stars get away with anything they want. IMO Asham gets at least the rest of the series, Adams gets the mandatory game, and Neal gets the Shea Weber $2500. fine.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

The Neal hearings should be interesting. If he doesn't get a game it will continue the NHL's double standard. Suspend the marginal players and let the stars get away with anything they want. IMO Asham gets at least the rest of the series, Adams gets the mandatory game, and Neal gets the Shea Weber $2500. fine.

i'm figuring they'll give him games, but that it'll follow over into next season. i don't expect the series to go on much longer! i'm pretty sure asham is a repeat offender...

as for neal? who knows, after seeing some of the other 'punishments' handed out.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm figuring they'll give him games, but that it'll follow over into next season. i don't expect the series to go on much longer! i'm pretty sure asham is a repeat offender...

as for neal? who knows, after seeing some of the other 'punishments' handed out.

It could be a $20 fine or expulsion from the sport, at this point nothing would suprise me.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by 3kings

The Neal hearings should be interesting. If he doesn't get a game it will continue the NHL's double standard. Suspend the marginal players and let the stars get away with anything they want. IMO Asham gets at least the rest of the series, Adams gets the mandatory game, and Neal gets the Shea Weber $2500. fine.

if asham neal or adams see the ice in game 4 we'll all know how much this league bows down to pitt

-bt-

[golfer]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It could be a $20 fine or expulsion from the sport, at this point nothing would suprise me.

It's so bizarre that they spent this entire season "cleaning" up the game, trying to take head shots out of the game due to the epidemic of concussions, and now this happens in the playoffs. They actually started "changing" the rules after the All Star break, being far more lenient in the clutching and grabbing department.

Adjudicating based on result as opposed to action is troubling to begin with. But now in the Playoffs, it's even more absurd and prone to being taken advantage of. IF Alfredson had a concussion, he shouldn't play tonight, for sure. If he plays tonight, and the rest of the series, I question the definition of concussion.

I still blame the NHL and the officiating crews for not taking control of these games. But the NHL wanted robot referees who don't think for themselves, just do what they are told, and this is what we have because of it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by golfer

It's so bizarre that they spent this entire season "cleaning" up the game, trying to take head shots out of the game due to the epidemic of concussions, and now this happens in the playoffs. They actually started "changing" the rules after the All Star break, being far more lenient in the clutching and grabbing department.

Adjudicating based on result as opposed to action is troubling to begin with. But now in the Playoffs, it's even more absurd and prone to being taken advantage of. IF Alfredson had a concussion, he shouldn't play tonight, for sure. If he plays tonight, and the rest of the series, I question the definition of concussion.

I still blame the NHL and the officiating crews for not taking control of these games. But the NHL wanted robot referees who don't think for themselves, just do what they are told, and this is what we have because of it.

crosby's healthy again; they don't care about concussions right now.


some of these guys will be like bart at the beginning of the simpsons, writing
'i will not elbow opposing players' 100 times on the chalkboard.

[slotdirt]

Ovechkin is 7,000 times the captain that Crosby is. He might step over the line occasionally, but you will never, ever see him pull some of the nonsense that Crosby has pulled already in his short career.

Looking at the tape from yesterday, the Penguins who legitimately deserve suspensions are Neal, Asham, Letang, and Craig Adams. I'd guess only two of those guys will end up serving time, but Letang going after a guy like Timonen and Adams pummeling Hartnell from behind whilst he was locked up with Crosby would also be worthy of supplemental discipline in the regular season.

[slotdirt]

Flyers aren't pure as the driven snow either, but the Adams/Hartnell/Crosby nonsense could have been avoided altogether if the officials had just given Neal a misconduct in the first place.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Ovechkin is 7,000 times the captain that Crosby is. He might step over the line occasionally, but you will never, ever see him pull some of the nonsense that Crosby has pulled already in his short career.

Looking at the tape from yesterday, the Penguins who legitimately deserve suspensions are Neal, Asham, Letang, and Craig Adams. I'd guess only two of those guys will end up serving time, but Letang going after a guy like Timonen and Adams pummeling Hartnell from behind whilst he was locked up with Crosby would also be worthy of supplemental discipline in the regular season.

don't forget he also pulled harnell's hair...

why did they make such a big deal about that on t.v. yesterday? is it because it's usually girls fighting who engage in hair pulling? or is it because it was hartnell, and hartnells hair?