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Old 04-24-2012, 09:05 PM
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Default One case of "mad cow" disease found in California

Just a reminder that Republicans want to eliminate the expense and big government of the USDA, and let the private livestock companies police themselves.

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The USDA has confirmed that a case of mad cow disease was found in a California dairy cow. It is the fourth case of mad cow, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), found in U.S. cattle since the first in December 2003. Los Angeles-based Baker Commodities confirmed that the cow was discovered in a Hanford, Calif. transfer station after workers selected the cow for random sampling. The company does not yet know from which farm the cow came from.

USDA Chief Veterinary Officer John Clifford said Tuesday afternoon that the cow did not enter the human food chain and that all U.S. meat and dairy supplies are safe. Further mitigating the risk to the public, milk does not transmit BSE.

According to the USDA, the animal's carcass is being held under state authority at a California rendering facility and will be destroyed. "It was never presented for slaughter for human consumption, so at no time presented a risk to the food supply or human health," Clifford said.
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:47 AM
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Yes the government is protecting us from mad cow. We need more gubmint! They are the only ones who can protect us and keep us healthy!!!
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:38 AM
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What's the concern? Once Americans start contracting mad cow disease, they will respond by not purchasing meat from the factory farms where mad cow was found, because of course we all can point to the meat in our fridges and say where it came from, amirite? No regulation necessary!

A few hundred deaths are certainly worth protecting the corporations for, which, as the Supreme Court and Mitt Romney have reminded us, are people, too. FREEEEEDOMMMMMM!
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:00 AM
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And we can thank this democratic president for continuing to sign legislation that makes the family farm an impossibility and a distant memory so that Monsanto can control the entire food supply. That's safe.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:09 PM
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Without government science would cease to exist!!! Woogidy boogidy
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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If it wasn't bad enough to implement NAIS on the non-corporate farm, now our illustrious prez want's to outlaw chores around the family farm. That's right - asking your kid to help out around the farm will now violate child labor laws:

http://nation.foxnews.com/department...ng-farm-chores

Should soon all be for naught once Monsanto figures out how to genetically mutate dairy cows to milk themselves. Mmmm Mmmm Good!!
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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And the healthy stuff is astronomically overpriced. The government and FDA is here to help. Obey.
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:38 PM
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If it wasn't bad enough to implement NAIS on the non-corporate farm, now our illustrious prez want's to outlaw chores around the family farm. That's right - asking your kid to help out around the farm will now violate child labor laws:

http://nation.foxnews.com/department...ng-farm-chores

Should soon all be for naught once Monsanto figures out how to genetically mutate dairy cows to milk themselves. Mmmm Mmmm Good!!

It's so funny that you brought this up- a commenter on one of the political blogs i frequent mentioned this today as the latest Republican lie that is being pushed, and not an hour later, here is a post on DT about it!

Let's see what the actual text of the actual law says-

SUMMARY: The Department of Labor (Department or DOL) is proposing to
revise the child labor regulations issued pursuant to the Fair Labor
Standards Act, which set forth the criteria for the permissible
employment of minors under 18 years of age in agricultural and
nonagricultural occupations. The proposal would implement specific
recommendations made by the National Institute for Occupational Safety
and Health, increase parity between the agricultural and
nonagricultural child labor provisions, and also address other areas
that can be improved, which were identified by the Department's own
enforcement actions. The proposed agricultural revisions would impact
only hired farm workers and in no way compromise the statutory child
labor parental exemption involving children working on farms owned or
operated by their parents.


http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...2011-0001-0001

Wow, right there in the first paragraph- a crystal clear statement that not a thing changes for kids working on their own family's farm!

So no, our "illustrious prez" does not want to outlaw chores on the family farm. The GOP just figures their willing minions will swallow whatever bs they tell them to, even when it's directly contradicted in the first paragraph of the law's actual text.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:06 PM
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So the kids are exempt if their parents own the farm. Cousin? F.uck you, Pay Uncle Sam. Bow down to Genuine Lib Shill and O'dumbass.

nascar was right.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:07 PM
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true that it won't affect your child on your farm. however, jobs that have been held by teens for years in the country will be affected.
every summer where i grew up kids went to work in the tobacco fields. around here it's tomato farms. that type of work would definitely be affected. many kids look forward to working in the tomato sheds around here-it's good money for about six weeks of work. the jobs go fast.
thank goodness the govt is here to protect our children from the adults. goodness knows that picking tobacco and boxing tomatoes is incredibly dangerous work. and no one in their family has the common sense to figure out whether a poor 16-17 year old child can do work or not. of course if they commit murder, they're an adult...but working on a farm?! oh, the humanity.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:09 PM
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I think the country should split up. Let the smug idiot f.ucktard liberals take one side and the rest of us the other. We can deal with the radicals on our side. Just get these nerdy losers who were bullied in school out of our lives. Give them a statue of Karl Marx as a parting gift.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:30 PM
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....bunch of side stepping semantics...
What is the President doing passing laws that hindering American farmers from making a living??!! Trying to put them out of business??!!

So my kid is going to watch the farm down the road go under because he (and anyone else in the town under 18) isn't allowed to help the farmer that relied on the townspeople for labor to assist him in reaping his crops and getting them to market before they rot on the floor?

The genetically mutated crap that you shove down your maw every single day comes from directly from Big Ag, who is in the back pocket of the politicians to create and pass this nonsense. The President is supposed to be the voice or reason, not just another shill in the corporatizing of the government.

Keep on defending this like it is some sort of partisan pissing contest
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:46 PM
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I think the country should split up. Let the smug idiot f.ucktard liberals take one side and the rest of us the other. We can deal with the radicals on our side. Just get these nerdy losers who were bullied in school out of our lives. Give them a statue of Karl Marx as a parting gift.
I'm all for it - the reality though is that probably 90% of the country has enough sense to realize that pitting side "A" against side "B" only serves as a smoke screen to mask the atrocities going on in government on both sides.

They are just too fat and too lazy to demand change.

Risk - NewsFlash: Bush was horrible, Obama is Horrible, Romney will be just as bad. and by the end of that term, pretty near all of your civil liberties will have been taken away.

Funny how Riot/Risk gets their proverbial tits caught in a vise when Ryan decides to wipe his asz with the Wisconsin state constitution, but defends the same actions on a federal level because they are democrats.

How about defending liberty and the constitution for once instead of thinking you're somehow being personally attacked when people point out how bad your pres is fucl<ing us?
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:04 PM
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RBE, let's review your original post, which is what I addressed:

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If it wasn't bad enough to implement NAIS on the non-corporate farm, now our illustrious prez want's to outlaw chores around the family farm. That's right - asking your kid to help out around the farm will now violate child labor laws:
You made an untrue statement. When pointed out that it was untrue, you immediately pivoted to start crying about, and may I quote you:

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So my kid is going to watch the farm down the road go under because he (and anyone else in the town under 18) isn't allowed to help the farmer that relied on the townspeople for labor to assist him in reaping his crops and getting them to market before they rot on the floor?
I believe this is what we call "a made-up example." Otherwise known as "fiction." Unless you care to post pictures of your alleged neighborhood farmer's property and of all the alleged happy teenagers that work on it.

And then completed with an accusation that I love the proposed law because I love Big Ag. In fact, you don't even know what I think about the proposed changes, because my post was about nothing more than what you posted about the laws was incorrect. Which it was. (Well, and GOP lovers' willingness to swallow whatever the GOP feeds them, even when 5 minutes of googling disprove it.)
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and no one in their family has the common sense to figure out whether a poor 16-17 year old child can do work or not. of course if they commit murder, they're an adult...but working on a farm?! oh, the humanity.
Actually, Danzig, the proposed changes only apply to kids under the age of 16.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:07 PM
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More government intrusion into our lives!! yay!!!

As Americans whose country was founded on freedom and liberty, this is another day and another law to celebrate.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:14 PM
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I dislike Politifact, and I HATE linking to them, but even I have to admit they do a good job parsing the new regulations- for those who are actually interested in knowing what they are screaming about, here:

http://www.politifact.com/tennessee/...-rules-could-/

The long and short of it is that the regulations proposed are to minimize the chances of children under the age of 16 being injured or dying due to very specific circumstances, and very specific machinery. And even those dangerous machines are exempt if a child is working on his or her family farm. In addition, 4H programs get lots of exemptions.

So, read this piece, or read the actual legislation- I linked to it earlier. And then decide if you're upset about the legislation, or just want another excuse to Obama-bash and don't care if you're actually telling the truth about proposed legislation.
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If it wasn't bad enough to implement NAIS on the non-corporate farm, now our illustrious prez want's to outlaw chores around the family farm. That's right - asking your kid to help out around the farm will now violate child labor laws:

http://nation.foxnews.com/department...ng-farm-chores

Should soon all be for naught once Monsanto figures out how to genetically mutate dairy cows to milk themselves. Mmmm Mmmm Good!!
cows have been able to milk themselves for quite some time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7iA4sMpF8
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What's the concern? Once Americans start contracting mad cow disease, they will respond by not purchasing meat from the factory farms where mad cow was found, because of course we all can point to the meat in our fridges and say where it came from, amirite? No regulation necessary!

A few hundred deaths are certainly worth protecting the corporations for, which, as the Supreme Court and Mitt Romney have reminded us, are people, too. FREEEEEDOMMMMMM!
Speaking of a politician who wants to protect corporations, even after he promised to do the opposite on this issue, Obama comes to mind:

http://coupmedia.org/everything-gmo/...-labeling-1404
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:19 PM
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Actually, Danzig, the proposed changes only apply to kids under the age of 16.
yeah, under 16's work there too. 14 and 15 year olds. i'm sure they'll be glad to know that big brother is there to keep them from earning some money this summer.
here in arkansas, kids can get hardship drivers licenses at 14. so, they can drive a car on the road with hundreds or even thousands of other cars, but for gods' sake, don't put them on a lawnmower.
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