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Old 11-28-2012, 03:55 PM
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Default 12/1-2 (HOL): Native Diver (G3), Skillful Joy; Vernon O. Underwood (G3)

3rd (1:30) Skillful Joy S.

6 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Byrama (GB) Bejarano R 121 L
2 Reneesgotzip Gomez G K 124 L
3 Minds Eyes Smith M E 121 L
4 Belle Passe Talamo J 121 L
5 Forbidden City Baze T C 121
6 Curvy Cat Nakatani C S 121 L
7 Nechez Dawn Maldonado E 121 L
8 Eileen's Dream Garcia M 119 L



4th (2:01) Native Diver H. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Game On Dude Smith M E 124 L
2 Richard's Kid Bejarano R 119 L
3 Make Music for Me Baze T C 117 L
4 Nonios Pedroza M A 119 L
5 Kettle Corn Gomez G K 119 L
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:36 PM
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Game On Dude can miss the break and still drag Smith to the lead..Absolutely no pace in this race...
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:05 PM
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SUNDAY 8th (4:05) Vernon O. Underwood S. (G3)

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Capital Account Flores D R 124 L
2 Smash Garcia M 114 L
3 Fast Bullet Talamo J 114 L
4 Smiling Tiger Bejarano R 122 L
5 Bank the Eight Gomez G K 118 L
6 Comma to the Top Nakatani C S 120 L
7 Private Zone Pedroza M A 116 L
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:10 PM
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That was an awesome effort from Nonios (even though Game on Dude won)!

Does that move up Blueskiesenrainbows's chances in the 8th race? After all, the last time Nonios raced on synthetic before this, Blueskies defeated him.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:34 PM
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They seriously ran 1 1/8th in So Cal in 1:52+. It's time for a break for Game on Dude.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:49 PM
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They seriously ran 1 1/8th in So Cal in 1:52+. It's time for a break for Game on Dude.
Any thought that the track may be slow today?
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:15 PM
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Any thought that the track may be slow today?
Considering the fractions for the filly sprint race, one race before the Native Diver, it sure looked like the slowest SoCal track I can remember.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:11 AM
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I stand corrected after looking at the rest of the times. That was a ridiculously slow track.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:44 PM
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bunch or horses that got beat like a drum in the classic,who hoo..
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:49 PM
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why does bob baffert insist on running capital account at 6F? He is 0 for 6 at the distance and 5 for 6 on distance more than 6f. He is by Closing Argument so 1 mile should be well within his reach. I am surprised they werent targeting the BC Dirt Mile instead of the Sprint.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:41 PM
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why does bob baffert insist on running capital account at 6F? He is 0 for 6 at the distance and 5 for 6 on distance more than 6f. He is by Closing Argument so 1 mile should be well within his reach. I am surprised they werent targeting the BC Dirt Mile instead of the Sprint.
For one the BC Dirt Mile is two turns, at Santa Anita at least.

If they didn't run yesterday, the only other spot would have been the Cigar Mile, which would have worked as it's one turn.

I think your stat (which was mentioned ad nauseum on TVG yesterday) is kind of misleading. He's been close in some of his 6 furlong races and has led way before the 6 furlong mark in his 6 1/2 or 7 furlong wins.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:47 PM
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For one the BC Dirt Mile is two turns, at Santa Anita at least.

If they didn't run yesterday, the only other spot would have been the Cigar Mile, which would have worked as it's one turn.

I think your stat (which was mentioned ad nauseum on TVG yesterday) is kind of misleading. He's been close in some of his 6 furlong races and has led way before the 6 furlong mark in his 6 1/2 or 7 furlong wins.
his 0 for 6 at 6f is misleading? Is the logical plan to keep racing him at 6f until he wins one? He will probably win one in ALW conditions where he just inherits the lead as he had done before racing against much lesser. They could have run him in the Malibu.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:06 PM
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his 0 for 6 at 6f is misleading? Is the logical plan to keep racing him at 6f until he wins one? He will probably win one in ALW conditions where he just inherits the lead as he had done before racing against much lesser. They could have run him in the Malibu.
It's misleading because in 6 starts going 6 furlongs, he's been off the board just once (when he didn't lift a hoof in the Breeders Cup.) He's been 2nd three times and 3rd twice, missing by a head three back.

Maybe if Baffert had a time machine they could have run him in the Malibu, but it's restricted to 3 year olds and he is 5.

Where is Doc Brown when you need him with the flux capacitor?
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:16 PM
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It's misleading because in 6 starts going 6 furlongs, he's been off the board just once (when he didn't lift a hoof in the Breeders Cup.) He's been 2nd three times and 3rd twice, missing by a head three back.

Maybe if Baffert had a time machine they could have run him in the Malibu, but it's restricted to 3 year olds and he is 5.

Where is Doc Brown when you need him with the flux capacitor?


My mistake on the Malibu reference . San Carlos Stakes on Feb 23 at 7f is a logical choice next out.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:17 PM
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Actually, Flux Capacitor, would be an awesome name for a racehorse
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:57 PM
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Actually, Flux Capacitor, would be an awesome name for a racehorse
Hopefully someone reads the thread, names a horse that and gives us a small stake. In retrospect, maybe the Cigar Mile might have been a good chance to see what he could do going longer than he has...but it's not like he disgraced himself yesterday.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:05 PM
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Hopefully someone reads the thread, names a horse that and gives us a small stake. In retrospect, maybe the Cigar Mile might have been a good chance to see what he could do going longer than he has...but it's not like he disgraced himself yesterday.
Maybe Steve can name a DeeTee horse that and get phystech to manage it
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:14 PM
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Maybe Steve can name a DeeTee horse that and get phystech to manage it


Well played.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:50 AM
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http://www.pedigreequery.com/flux+capacitor
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:51 AM
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Hey Helicopter, you wouldn't happen to be related to Ron Ellis, would ya?

Just asking because of the comment about running an older horse in the Malibu.
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