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Old 11-15-2013, 11:39 AM
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Well Obama's failure was predictable from his 2 year stint as a Senator before running for president. This "community organizer" lacks just about every quality necessary to be president except for good enough ocular acuity to read a teleprompter.

Your guy strings together prose just fine as long as someone else writes it for him to read off the prompter, and hasn't had an original thought for his whole term. Saul Alinsky and other socialists have said it all before. He's a recycled retread.
and he's not 'my guy'. i didn't vote for him in either election, i thought he would do poorly. i don't think he had enough experience, i thought he was naive. his pronouncements on change and his talk of things he was going to do were scoffed at by me. apparently you either didn't read or you choose to ignore all that.
it's too bad tho, that people tend to forget all that, because i won't fall in line with their 'black or white' way of looking at things and will challenge the 'worst president ever' pronouncements, or because i explain you're putting way, way too much blame on one person. the same one person i said was dreaming that he could change things.
he, and we, are a victim of the system.

your bias dictates what you say on here. try looking at everything candidly, without preconceived notions. i'd also recommend you read history, it will help put things in perspective regarding what has come before-and how our current 'leaders' compare.
also, it would help you persuade if you didn't suggest such things as palin being 'better'. that's hilarious.

also, how much has been kept from being done, or undone, because of the House? repubs made no secret that their sole purpose since obama took office was to thwart everything and anything. to hurt him at every opportunity, for good or for ill. how does that help this country or its citizens?

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Old 11-15-2013, 01:54 PM
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what has he ever wanted that has been stoped? he makes it very clear.....its his way or GFY.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:14 PM
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what has he ever wanted that has been stoped? he makes it very clear.....its his way or GFY.
what?

is he obama? do you mean stopped?
and are we talking about the same person? obama, until the recent govt shutdown, always tried to achieve compromise. always asked for both parties to come together and come up with solutions. wanted bipartisanship. his grandiose designs for everyone coming together and making things better is an abject failure.
now, that's mainly due to republican intransigence. or are we to pretend that their comments on stonewalling every obama initiative didn't happen?

remember this?

MCCONNELL: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:19 PM
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i did mean stopped. and yes Obama gets Everything he wants.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:20 PM
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repubs are so weak he just blows those losers off
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:29 PM
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i did mean stopped. and yes Obama gets Everything he wants.
really? you sure?

what about gitmo for startes? last i heard, it was still open.

how's ending tax deductions for companies that offshore going?

how's that budget deal going? i think we're still under sequester.

that's just off the top of my head.


oh, just looked--politifact has him at 45% on promises kept.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

i'm pretty sure everything would equal 100%, not 45%.

promises broken, 22%.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:34 PM
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I'd rather lose gitmo and keep my healthcare instead of the other way around.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:37 PM
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I'd rather lose gitmo and keep my healthcare instead of the other way around.
are you losing your healthcare?
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:50 PM
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are you losing your healthcare?
Not yet. This is the last year that employer-provided healthcare does not get hit. Next year is a different story.

That's when the other 80% get screwed. You think 5 million and counting is bad - next year it will be closer to 100 million.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:51 PM
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really? you sure?

what about gitmo for startes? last i heard, it was still open.

how's ending tax deductions for companies that offshore going?

how's that budget deal going? i think we're still under sequester.

that's just off the top of my head.


oh, just looked--politifact has him at 45% on promises kept.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

i'm pretty sure everything would equal 100%, not 45%.

promises broken, 22%.
Immigration reform..nope

Reasonable Gun Control..Nope
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:52 PM
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Not yet. This is the last year that employer-provided healthcare does not get hit. Next year is a different story.

That's when the other 80% get screwed. You think 5 million and counting is bad - next year it will be closer to 100 million.
citation, please.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:54 PM
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejap...keep-coverage/

About 90 percent of self-insured employers say they “don’t plan to move any” of their insured workers to public exchanges, which are making their debut this fall under the Affordable Care Act, a national business coalition said


“About 90% of the responding employers said they don’t plan to move employees and their dependents to either public marketplaces or private exchanges in the near future,” Larry Boress, president and chief executive officer of the Midwest Business Group said.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:56 PM
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Immigration reform..nope

Reasonable Gun Control..Nope
we must be reading the wrong stuff, bob...

because obama gets everything he wants.
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citation, please.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...na-break-lose/
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Rush ****ing Limbaugh is your reasoned research? You're having a banner day..
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:59 PM
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Rush ****ing Limbaugh is your reasoned research? You're having a banner day..
Is he wrong? Or do you just hate him too much to concede that the facts are correct.
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Is he wrong? Or do you just hate him too much to concede that the facts are correct.
There is NOTHING WHATSOEVER in the article backing up what he said. NADA, ZIP , ZILCH. He gave no reasoning, NONE.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:32 PM
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lmao
oh my.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:34 PM
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Is he wrong? Or do you just hate him too much to concede that the facts are correct.
lol
you hate obama, therefore everything he does is wrong. even if it's not, he did it, so it's wrong. and then you call out someone for possibly doing the same thing?!
good lord, do you listen to yourself?

can you find me a piece by someone with no bias, no agenda, non partisan, who just gives facts? please.
if rush said the sky was blue, i'd want it verified.

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:59 PM
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lmao
oh my.
Rush tells it like it is...here's one of his better clips...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o6yrdInw6s
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