2015: American Pharoah becomes 12th Triple Crown winner

[cakes44]

Oaks/Derby double... Stellar Wind-AP.

That is all.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by saratogadew

My early Oaks/Derby Double selection:

Condo Commando
By the Moon
Stellar Wind
Lovely Maria
West Coast Belle

OVER

American Pharoah
Mubtaahij
Firing Line
Stanford
Far Right

$4.00 Double
100.

Not to be rude, but are you really gonna play that? I mean, if it comes up Wind / AP, you are looking at getting 40$ or 50$ back on $4

[RHT2004]

Anyone know if they have the 2 day pick 3 this year?

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Anyone know if they have the 2 day pick 3 this year?

http://www.churchilldowns.com/racing...mes-wager-menu

Yes.

[-BT-]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...9dd_story.html

had no clue Shah was a local boy....Vienna, VA

-bt-

[munster705]

Thoughts on Firing Line? I am leaning towards him with 5 days to post.....love the preps....ran right with the favorite in here and it sounds like they are training him to rate off the pace

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Scav

Not to be rude, but are you really gonna play that? I mean, if it comes up Wind / AP, you are looking at getting 40$ or 50$ back on $4

Not even that. Last year the chalk P3 paid $4.25 per $50c. Everyone had those 3 in their wheels. I won and lost money. The double was $5.70 per $1

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by munster705

Thoughts on Firing Line? I am leaning towards him with 5 days to post.....love the preps....ran right with the favorite in here and it sounds like they are training him to rate off the pace

He's in my top 3, at the moment

I'd love to see odds on a prop bet that he'd finish ahead of Dortmund, which I believe can very well happen.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Great up to date workout recap from the Courier Journal:

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ates/26363729/

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Great up to date workout recap from the Courier Journal:

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ates/26363729/

That's the daily notebook from the Communications Office. Available at kentuckyderby.com without the hoopjumping req'd at the C-J:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/20...-draws-field-1

Darren Rogers Communications Dept. twitter feed with links to all the press releases: https://twitter.com/DerbyMedia

[Dunbar]

Tale of The Verve was entered in the Ky Derby and is now 2nd on the bubble:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...d-for-ky-derby

A horse with 0 points might make it in.


--Dunbar

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I'm failing to see what, if anything, separates Am Pharoah and Dortmund by so much over Upstart and Materiality. I get it that Materiality has only had 3 races. But those races were not cakewalks. His (and to a lesser extent Upstart's) last-race BSF's are significantly superior to AP's and Dortmund's. And I get that AP was wound down late in the Ark Derby, but not IMO to a degree that would have flipped the BSF order.

At this point I'm thinking that Am Pharoah and Dortmund will both be significantly overbet. Carpe Diem will be wildly overbet. There should be a lot of value in several of the other horses.

--Dunbar

FWIW, I'm less confident now that Dortmund will be "significantly overbet". With post positions considered, and most of Dortmund's toughest competition drawing poorly, I'd make Dortmund a 9-2 fav in a no-vig line. So, if he goes off at 4-1 or higher, I wouldn't think that's "overbet".

--Dunbar

[pmayjr]

Any word on El Kabeir?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Any word on El Kabeir?

He'll be fine but no Preakness. Issue was a quarter crack on the inside of the hoof. Was with Terranova before Derby as it happens and he said he'll concentrate on down the road opportunities. Nothing set as target yet. He was disappointed but not heartbroken. Just hopes he gets back with another 3yo.

[Kasept]

5/9/15 (BEL): Peter Pan

Madefromlucky (Pletcher)
Two Weeks Off (Pletcher)
Stanford (Pletcher)


5/16/15 (PIM): Preakness Stakes

American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza)
Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
International Star (Maker/Mena)
Divining Rod (Delacour)

Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
Materiality (Pletcher)
Carpe Diem (Pletcher)
Competitive Edge (Pletcher)
Bodhisattva (Corrales)


6/6/15 (BEL): Belmont Stakes

Keen Ice (Romans)
Mubtaahij (de Kock)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Materiality (Pletcher)
Two Weeks Off (Pletcher)

I hope at least one of these two runs.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I hope at least one of these two runs.

I would love to see Materiality run back, with a clean trip he is a huge threat in the Preakness.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pointman

I would love to see Materiality run back, with a clean trip he is a huge threat in the Preakness.

He'd be on all my tickets. I think TWO has a lot of potential too.

[knickslions2]

I think Stanford plays a huge role in the Preakness if he goes. No way he even comes close to winning but changes everything from a pace projection. Two weeks off is very interesting

[Rudeboyelvis]

Pat Cummings mentioning on Twitter that Mubtaahij is pointing to Belmont