Rich Eng

[Aly-Sheba]

Steve,
While I really like listening to Rich Eng on your show because he seems to be pretty sharp picking horses. But it really bugs me when someone gives out picks on your show , then Tweets he played another horse in that same race with no mention of that horse even as a long shot. Yesterday he tweeted that he played Alizarin Beauty in the 6th at Del Mar in the Pick and Pray contest. Now I know anyone has the right to change their mind, but I don't think that was the case. I'm sure he didn't want to give out so nobody would use that same horse in the contest, but it's kind of misleading if you are a public handicapper. Now I did not play anything yesterday and don't usually play during the week, so I didn't effect me, but I still think it's not right!

Rob from the Az

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba

Steve,
While I really like listening to Rich Eng on your show because he seems to be pretty sharp picking horses. But it really bugs me when someone gives out picks on your show , then Tweets he played another horse in that same race with no mention of that horse even as a long shot. Yesterday he tweeted that he played Alizarin Beauty in the 6th at Del Mar in the Pick and Pray contest. Now I know anyone has the right to change their mind, but I don't think that was the case. I'm sure he didn't want to give out so nobody would use that same horse in the contest, but it's kind of misleading if you are a public handicapper. Now I did not play anything yesterday and don't usually play during the week, so I didn't effect me, but I still think it's not right!

Rob from the Az

perhaps he didn't feel strongly enough about the horse to tell others to put their money on it, but figured a few bucks wouldn't hurt?
i'm sorry, i don't understand the complaint...

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Danzig

perhaps he didn't feel strongly enough about the horse to tell others to put their money on it, but figured a few bucks wouldn't hurt?
i'm sorry, i don't understand the complaint...

I'm not one for putting something in one's face. So don't pop off or Tweet that you had the winner is my point. He gave out 3 horses he liked in the race but not the winner. If he mentions the horse with an outside longshot, that would be fine. I'm for transparency by a public handicapper, sort of like our government!! ;-P

[MaTH716]

Truthfully playing live versus playing in a contest is apples and oranges.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Truthfully playing live versus playing in a contest is apples and oranges.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Truthfully playing live versus playing in a contest is apples and oranges.

You got to it before me. You have no idea where he was in the contest, how much he needed to move up, to where, etc. We often play a horse in a contest that is not our first, second, third or even fourth pick depending on circumstances.

People will gripe here about anything. It is mind boggling to me.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

You got to it before me. You have no idea where he was in the contest, how much he needed to move up, to where, etc. We often play a horse in a contest that is not our first, second, third or even fourth pick depending on circumstances.

People will gripe here about anything. It is mind boggling to me.

or 5th or 6th for that matter...

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by pointman

You got to it before me. You have no idea where he was in the contest, how much he needed to move up, to where, etc. We often play a horse in a contest that is not our first, second, third or even fourth pick depending on circumstances.

People will gripe here about anything. It is mind boggling to me.

Point, I understand that it was for a contest, that's why I indicated it was for Pick and Pray. I could have left that out. However IMO if you are going on Steve Byk's show to handicap a sequence for the show, then should be up front in your picks or excuse yourself from giving other opinions for the same race. That's all. Also I enjoy following you guys on the weekends with your play-alongs and you have a tendency to gripe a little about jocks, but I get a kick out of some your comments!!

[Kasept]

Definitely get the complaint.. Agree with the contest aspect about gravitating to a better price than Rich's published picks, but also agree that there's no need to talk about it publicly. Rich is a big time NHC/HPWS/BCBC contest player though and likely feels like his audience recognizes what he's doing in that circumstance..

[JBJake]

For what it is worth, met him at Mohegan Sun back in May and he seemed like a really good guy. Talked about some of his tweets and how he likes to tweet about all of his bad beats. He said he thinks people find that more interesting than sending out tweets about winnings. This was probably a circumstance of the contest. Certainly doesn't seem to be that kind of guy.