Trump beats Hillary in new poll

[joeydb]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...tion-match-up/

Excerpt: " A December poll from Fox showed Hillary ahead of Trump by 11 points. This latest poll, however, has Trump beating Clinton by 3 points, 47-44 percent."

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by joeydb

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...tion-match-up/

Excerpt: " A December poll from Fox showed Hillary ahead of Trump by 11 points. This latest poll, however, has Trump beating Clinton by 3 points, 47-44 percent."

Breitbart.com and Fox, well those are both so known to provide " truth and fairness"

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Breitbart.com and Fox, well those are both so known to provide " truth and fairness"

... as opposed to Slate, MotherJones, and Media Matters?

[joeydb]

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...illary-clinton

How about U.S. News? Not exactly a conservative publication...

Excerpt:

"Nearly 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they'd cross sides and vote for Trump, while a small number, or 14 percent, of Republicans claim they'd vote for Clinton. When those groups were further broken down, a far higher percentage of the crossover Democrats contend they are "100 percent sure" of switching than the Republicans."

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by joeydb

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...illary-clinton

How about U.S. News? Not exactly a conservative publication...

Excerpt:

"Nearly 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they'd cross sides and vote for Trump, while a small number, or 14 percent, of Republicans claim they'd vote for Clinton. When those groups were further broken down, a far higher percentage of the crossover Democrats contend they are "100 percent sure" of switching than the Republicans."

Virtually every poll since the end of November has the 2 of them in a virtual dead heat (neither exceed the respective MoE when leading):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

Considering it would take a minor miracle for Trump to carry New York (compared to a complete impossibility for the rest of the field), the GOP, as usual, will be spotting the Dems 53 EC votes (between NY and CA).

The GOP needs to carry FL, PA and OH to have a prayer, and Trump is leading (over his GOP counterparts) in all three states.

A more interesting view would be the same poll, but broken down by battleground states, and then compared to Clinton-Cruz and then Clinton-Rubio

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Virtually every poll since the end of November has the 2 of them in a virtual dead heat (neither exceed the respective MoE when leading):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

Considering it would take a minor miracle for Trump to carry New York (compared to a complete impossibility for the rest of the field), the GOP, as usual, will be spotting the Dems 53 EC votes (between NY and CA).

The GOP needs to carry FL, PA and OH to have a prayer, and Trump is leading (over his GOP counterparts) in all three states.

A more interesting view would be the same poll, but broken down by battleground states, and then compared to Clinton-Cruz and then Clinton-Rubio

Good analysis.

New York will be difficult due to historic left leaning, but I wasn't sure if Trump would get any edge for being a lifelong New Yorker versus Hillary's carpetbagger status for when she accepted the Moynihan senate seat as part of that plan to get her in office. You know - she couldn't be bothered by running for the House - would have been "beneath" her.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

... as opposed to Slate, MotherJones, and Media Matters?

Of course they're biased, so were the ones you referenced. That was the point.
There is news, and there is opinion, right?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Good analysis.

New York will be difficult due to historic left leaning, but I wasn't sure if Trump would get any edge for being a lifelong New Yorker versus Hillary's carpetbagger status for when she accepted the Moynihan senate seat as part of that plan to get her in office. You know - she couldn't be bothered by running for the House - would have been "beneath" her.

Why would trump get an edge at all?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Why would trump get an edge at all?

He has a local connection to New York, for life, where Hillary moved there to carpetbag a Senate seat. That's all. Might not add up to anything.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Why would trump get an edge at all?

Joey pretty much guaranteed a Mitt Romney victory last election and I believe McCain before that.. Kind of the LoneStar of election handicapping I'm holding out hope he jumps on the Hillary bandwagon..... Again if it isn't clear.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

Joey pretty much guaranteed a Mitt Romney victory last election and I believe McCain before that.. Kind of the LoneStar of election handicapping I'm holding out hope he jumps on the Hillary bandwagon..... Again if it isn't clear.

I don't recall that I guaranteed either, but of course that was the desired outcome. You could be right of course.

It would be hard to do worse than the current president. Unfortunately another prediction would was that he would "vote present" in the White House, and sadly that's what he has done.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

He has a local connection to New York, for life, where Hillary moved there to carpetbag a Senate seat. That's all. Might not add up to anything.

that doesn't mean squat. not in ny, and certainly not in the rest of the country.
i don't care for hilary one bit. but i'd vote for her over that dipshit trump any day of the week.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Breitbart.com and Fox, well those are both so known to provide " truth and fairness"

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that doesn't mean squat. not in ny, and certainly not in the rest of the country.
i don't care for hilary one bit. but i'd vote for her over that dipshit trump any day of the week.

Go any day but Tuesday...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Go any day but Tuesday...

I am really hoping those are not the two choices.

[OldDog]

You might get your wish.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...-democrats.htm

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by OldDog

You might get your wish.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...-democrats.htm

I would support Hillary if she wins the nomination. But Bernie is my choice as long as he is in the race. He is drawing huge crowds, and she is beginning to take some shots ( no pun intended for Bernie on guns lol) against him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

I would support Hillary if she wins the nomination. But Bernie is my choice as long as he is in the race. He is drawing huge crowds, and she is beginning to take some shots ( no pun intended for Bernie on guns lol) against him.

i prefer bernie over her for sure.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by OldDog

You might get your wish.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...-democrats.htm

Could be Trump vs. Sanders, and, political correctness aside, if you were looking at turnout at rallies, those would be the two names an unbiased observer would come up with at this point.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Could be Trump vs. Sanders, and, political correctness aside, if you were looking at turnout at rallies, those would be the two names an unbiased observer would come up with at this point.

what unbiased observer deduced that?