A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation...

[Pants II]

RBE

Cheeky I forgot that Bill Clinton got the Purple Heart in 'nam.

You're not British but just a sock of a former poster, right? If you are British I am highly disappointed.

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Pants II

RBE

Cheeky I forgot that Bill Clinton got the Purple Heart in 'nam.

You're not British but just a sock of a former poster, right? If you are British I am highly disappointed.

Sock? Ha! I joined maybe a year ago, but I rarely post because I'm rubbish at handicapping. I'm still learning. Why would you be disappointed at my being from the UK? What do you know about Brits and this election that I don't know??

And no, Clinton didn't go to Vietnam (a stupid war) but he certainly didn't go around bragging about dodging.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by CheekyBird

Sock? Ha! I joined maybe a year ago, but I rarely post because I'm rubbish at handicapping. I'm still learning. Why would you be disappointed at my being from the UK? What do you know about Brits and this election that I don't know??

And no, Clinton didn't go to Vietnam (a stupid war) but he certainly didn't go around bragging about dodging.

Yes he did. He even joked about it to his pen pals.

Most Brits I know would never use ones avoidance of a rubbish war as a talking point.

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Yes he did. He even joked about it to his pen pals.

Most Brits I know would never use ones avoidance of a rubbish war as a talking point.

Well, perhaps you don't know many who follow and have studied contemporary American politics.

I am not aware of Clinton joking about avoiding the war to his pen pals. Perhaps he did. I'm just not aware. I'll use "the Google" to see if I can find anything.

Can you link me to the sex tape? Because it looks like no one has seen said tape except Trumpers.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Pants II

RBE

Cheeky I forgot that Bill Clinton got the Purple Heart in 'nam.

You're not British but just a sock of a former poster, right? If you are British I am highly disappointed.

Latest poll to drop - Fox News poll 9/30:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...ll-results-30/

Hillary +2 points since the last poll, BUT the sample was expanded from +1 Dem to +4 Dem.

She actually lost ground since the debate.

Fact Check, folks. It is all out there, do the math.

[Rudeboyelvis]

These "Scientific" Polls are 60 pages long. The data sets are buried 50 pages in. Don't be lazy. You can look at every one of them.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by CheekyBird

Can you link me to the sex tape? Because it looks like no one has seen said tape except Trumpers.

I find that hard to believe considering there are so many lesbians supporting her.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

These "Scientific" Polls are 60 pages long. The data sets are buried 50 pages in. Don't be lazy. You can look at every one of them.

Or follow one of Palmer Luckey's paid trolls on Twitter.

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Pants II

I find that hard to believe considering there are so many lesbians supporting her.

Lesbians supporting Alicia Machado?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

These "Scientific" Polls are 60 pages long. The data sets are buried 50 pages in. Don't be lazy. You can look at every one of them.

Dan...what odds do you think are fair? Small wager with check to Byk for horse rescue...maybe $200?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Dan...what odds do you think are fair? Small wager with check to Byk for horse rescue...maybe $200?

I think the fair price right now is Hillary -200 (with no vig). Most places actually have her at about -280 right now, but that looks a little bit high considering that Nate Silver gives her a 69% chance of winning right now. If she had a 66.66% chance, that would mean she should be exactly -200. She has gotten a strong bounce from the debate. She was only about -140 or so a week ago.

Nate Silver had her chances of winning at about 54% last week. So she has definitely gotten a strong bounce. Here are the odds at several different places. Most places have her around -280 and Trump at +220 or so.

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/...on-2016/winner

[Rupert Pupkin]

All people are talking about these days are things like Trump calling women fat. Nobody is talking about Hillary (as the head of the State Department) refusing to provide more security to our embassy in Benghazi, even though they had requested more security over 100 times. How is this not a major story? Hillary's judgement is atrocious. I think a good case can be made that she is directly responsible for those Americans dying in Benghazi.

Trump obviously has serious baggage. He has some major flaws. But if it came to an important decision such as whether grant the request to our embassy of having more security, I am confident that he would make the right decision. The reason Hillary didn't want the embassy to have more security was because she thought it might not look good to have armed guards patrolling the embassy. The embassy wouldn't look as friendly if there were armed guards stationed there. What is more important, protecting our embassy staff, or not wanting to take a chance of possibly offending someone? I would rather vote for a guy who says some stupid stuff, than for a person who refuses to protect our embassy.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...uced-security/

[Rudeboyelvis]

I offered to book Nate Sliver's number after the Dem Convention. The libs here scattered like cockroaches.

She can scream every pejorative term at him that she can dream up. That is all she has. Period. Her only claim to fame was riding her rapist husband's coattails into the white house. She has been abject failure at everything she has touched. Except accepting bribes...errr...speaking fees to be laundered through her and her husband's slush fund.

Nothing has changed, except that the media is in a full court press to save the establishment. Every poll is over sampled by Dems and Women by anywhere from 8 to 18%, yet her numbers are only showing 4-5% edge.

That is going backward.

They need the Governor of VA (another unindicted Clinton crony felon) to register illegals, dead people and and convicted criminals to try and steal the state from the real voters.

Panic Mode.

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

...Nobody is talking about Hillary (as the head of the State Department) refusing to provide more security to our embassy in Benghazi

...The reason Hillary didn't want the embassy to have more security was because she thought it might not look good to have armed guards patrolling the embassy. The embassy wouldn't look as friendly if there were armed guards stationed there. What is more important, protecting our embassy staff, or not wanting to take a chance of possibly offending someone? I would rather vote for a guy who says some stupid stuff, than for a person who refuses to protect our embassy.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...uced-security/

First, just as a point of fact, Benghazi was not an embassy. It was a U.S. consulate office. Typically, U.S. Consulate offices do not have "armed guards." They are in place to help facilitate trade and "citizen to citizen" relations.

Second, what you cite as possible reasons for "denial" of protection for the CONSULATE is based on an OPINION piece. Not fact.

Finally, regarding Trump saying "stupid stuff." Have you ever heard of the saying, "Loose lips sink ships?" He is not running for secondary school president ("Vote for Pedro.") What he says could lead to world war. He needs to GROW UP, and so do his followers.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by CheekyBird

First, just as a point of fact, Benghazi was not an embassy. It was a U.S. consulate office. Typically, U.S. Consulate offices do not have "armed guards." They are in place to help facilitate trade and "citizen to citizen" relations.

Second, what you cite as possible reasons for "denial" of protection for the CONSULATE is based on an OPINION piece. Not fact.

Finally, regarding Trump saying "stupid stuff." Have you ever heard of the saying, "Loose lips sink ships?" He is not running for secondary school president ("Vote for Pedro.") What he says could lead to world war. He needs to GROW UP, and so do his followers.

Why would the fact that other embassies and consulates have been attacked lessen the outrage over Hillary denying requests for more security? If anything, that should raise the outrage. If there had never been any consulate attacks, you could argue that there was no reasonable risk to the consulate. But since there has been a long history of attacks on consulates and embassies, there is no excuse for Hillary denying the requests for more security. In addition, there is obviously more risk in certain countries than others. In countries that have a great number of jihadists, you obviously need serious security.

With regards to your assertion that we don't know for sure what Hillary's reason was for denying the request, the reason is irrelevant. We know for sure that protecting the consulate was "not a high priority" to the State Department. Even the State Department Accountability Review Board said,
"The number of Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) security staff in Benghazi on the day of the attack and in the months and weeks leading up to it was inadequate, despite repeated requests from Special Mission Benghazi and Embassy Tripoli for additional staffing. Board members found a pervasive realization among personnel who served in Benghazi that the Special Mission was not a high priority for Washington when it came to security-related requests, especially those relating to staffing."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...eans/#comments

There is no excuse for not protecting your consulate employees.

With regard to your comment about Trump's big mouth possibly leading to war, I disagree with that. Most of our enemies out there like Iran are bullies. Bullies will push you around if you show weakness. If we have a tough leader that talks tough, our enemies are much more likely to respect us and fear us, than if we have a weak leader like Obama. You know the old slogan, "Peace Through Strength".

[Rudeboyelvis]

Brand new CBS poll -

Hillary "edges" away from Trump 45-41%

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-...-cbs-nyt-poll/

Yeah, right.


Poll sampling:

Registered Unweighted = Dem +4%; Registered Weighted = Dem +6%; Among likely voters = Dem +5%

https://www.scribd.com/document/3262...nes#from_embed

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would the fact that other embassies and consulates have been attacked lessen the outrage over Hillary denying requests for more security?.

This is an interesting exercise only to those who believe HRC "denied" requests for more security when those requests did not go directly to her. Sure, they say the buck stops w/the person in charge, but it seems everyone is free to blame "low level" staff or chain of command except for HRC.

Which brings me to the reason for the graphic depicting embassies and consulates that have in the past been attacked. What previous attacks demonstrate is that not one Secretary of State in the Bush Administration (or a previous administration) was hauled into Congress to answer for those attacks. Dems are mature enough to understand that those who are serve around the world in the diplomatic service are at risk, particularly when serving in politically volatile areas.. [/quote]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

.... there is no excuse for Hillary denying the requests for more security...

She did not deny requests. Litigated. No wrongdoing found.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

With regard to your comment about Trump's big mouth possibly leading to war, I disagree with that. Most of our enemies out there like Iran are bullies. Bullies will push you around if you show weakness. If we have a tough leader that talks tough, our enemies are much more likely to respect us and fear us, than if we have a weak leader like Obama. You know the old slogan, "Peace Through Strength".

Trump has been described as a bully. Talks all sorts of shite about Mexicans and building a wall then tucks his tail in his bum when meeting the President of Mexico. No one respects Trump! No one! Even more importantly, no one is afraid of Trump. He has done nothing to demonstrate how strong he'd be... unless of course, if that strength involves insulting women.

[Pants II]

Uh Oh.

LMFAO

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Uh Oh.

LMFAO

If (when) Heartvalve McParkinsons kicks it, there's your pres. Dear God.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

If (when) Heartvalve McParkinsons kicks it, there's your pres. Dear God.

The MSM is trying to spin it like he won. CNN had the establishment baby killers on to shame rational people into voting for their hag.

I have to believe the American people are catching onto these 'folks'. When the shtf they will be flying to their first home.