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Old 01-10-2007, 07:20 AM
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for anyone who thinks boise st got no respect, here's why:



August 31 Sacramento State W 45-0 1-0 (0-0)
September 7 Oregon State W 42-14 2-0 (0-0)
September 16 at Wyoming W 17-10 3-0 (0-0)
September 23 Hawaii W 41-34 4-0 (1-0)
September 30 at Utah W 36-3 5-0 (1-0)
October 7 Louisiana Tech W 55-14 6-0 (2-0)
October 15 at New Mexico State W 40-28 7-0 (3-0)
October 21 at Idaho W 42-26 8-0 (4-0)
November 1 Fresno State W 45-21 9-0 (5-0)
November 11 at San Jose State W 23-20 10-0 (6-0)
November 18 Utah State W 49-10 11-0 (7-0)
November 25 at Nevada W 38-7 12-0 (8-0)
January 1 vs No. 11 Oklahoma W 43-42 13-0 (8-0) Fox


'nuff said. in no way does this schedule stack up against ANYTHING that other teams in the top ten faced. NO ranked team til the bowl game, and oklahoma was a two game loser this year--and they squeaked by them by ONE point. boise st got way too much credit for their 'perfect' season.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:46 AM
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for anyone who thinks boise st got no respect, here's why:



August 31 Sacramento State W 45-0 1-0 (0-0)
September 7 Oregon State W 42-14 2-0 (0-0)
September 16 at Wyoming W 17-10 3-0 (0-0)
September 23 Hawaii W 41-34 4-0 (1-0)
September 30 at Utah W 36-3 5-0 (1-0)
October 7 Louisiana Tech W 55-14 6-0 (2-0)
October 15 at New Mexico State W 40-28 7-0 (3-0)
October 21 at Idaho W 42-26 8-0 (4-0)
November 1 Fresno State W 45-21 9-0 (5-0)
November 11 at San Jose State W 23-20 10-0 (6-0)
November 18 Utah State W 49-10 11-0 (7-0)
November 25 at Nevada W 38-7 12-0 (8-0)
January 1 vs No. 11 Oklahoma W 43-42 13-0 (8-0) Fox


'nuff said. in no way does this schedule stack up against ANYTHING that other teams in the top ten faced. NO ranked team til the bowl game, and oklahoma was a two game loser this year--and they squeaked by them by ONE point. boise st got way too much credit for their 'perfect' season.
I agree...

No disrespect for Boise State, but I don't think they deserved to play in the championship game after playing that schedule. I'm convinced that they would have probably been at least a 2-3 loss team if they played a tougher schedule.
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:36 AM
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for anyone who thinks boise st got no respect, here's why:



August 31 Sacramento State W 45-0 1-0 (0-0)
September 7 Oregon State W 42-14 2-0 (0-0)
September 16 at Wyoming W 17-10 3-0 (0-0)
September 23 Hawaii W 41-34 4-0 (1-0)
September 30 at Utah W 36-3 5-0 (1-0)
October 7 Louisiana Tech W 55-14 6-0 (2-0)
October 15 at New Mexico State W 40-28 7-0 (3-0)
October 21 at Idaho W 42-26 8-0 (4-0)
November 1 Fresno State W 45-21 9-0 (5-0)
November 11 at San Jose State W 23-20 10-0 (6-0)
November 18 Utah State W 49-10 11-0 (7-0)
November 25 at Nevada W 38-7 12-0 (8-0)
January 1 vs No. 11 Oklahoma W 43-42 13-0 (8-0) Fox


'nuff said. in no way does this schedule stack up against ANYTHING that other teams in the top ten faced. NO ranked team til the bowl game, and oklahoma was a two game loser this year--and they squeaked by them by ONE point. boise st got way too much credit for their 'perfect' season.
That same Oregon St team that they blew out beat USC so to suggest they played nothing is ridiculous. Besides, do you know how hard it is to schedule a game against a top 25 opponent for them? The BCS schools only play each other or cupcake in-state opponents in their non-conference games. A team like Boise St would love to play USC every year but USC would never put that game on their schedule. Just scoring Oregon St is a pretty big accomplishment for their schedule maker. Of course now that Oregon St lost we'll see if any Pac-10 school ever goes to Boise again. This is the typical response of the BCS conference lovers, look at their schedule. Yet the reality is they try and schedule as difficult of a schedule as they can manage but none of the big name schools want to play a school like Boise St.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:09 AM
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That same Oregon St team that they blew out beat USC so to suggest they played nothing is ridiculous. Besides, do you know how hard it is to schedule a game against a top 25 opponent for them? The BCS schools only play each other or cupcake in-state opponents in their non-conference games. A team like Boise St would love to play USC every year but USC would never put that game on their schedule. Just scoring Oregon St is a pretty big accomplishment for their schedule maker. Of course now that Oregon St lost we'll see if any Pac-10 school ever goes to Boise again. This is the typical response of the BCS conference lovers, look at their schedule. Yet the reality is they try and schedule as difficult of a schedule as they can manage but none of the big name schools want to play a school like Boise St.
I would say that Hawaii is also a pretty good team on their schedule and I'm not blaming Boise State, but the truth is that when you have other teams playing ranked teams all season long, they should get more push to play the BCS games than Boise State. I have no clue how the scheduling works... thanks for posting the info you did.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:15 AM
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Not only that, scheduling takes place years in advance. How do you know who is going to be good in 2010.

It is very hard for Boise State to schedule BCS schools because of money...simply money. They don't offer home and home series. They want the revenue from extra home games on their OOC schedules. Basically, they'd have to be willing to travel during this period.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:29 PM
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Its an extremely hard spot for teams like Boise St and i dont know if there is a solution...Those type teams in basketball or football are not gonna get a home and home with a major player. In football its even tougher, give you an example i live in Northern KY, from my porch i look down at downtown Cincy (less than a mile from DT cincy). UC gets a two game series with O St, first year they at Paul Brown Stadium (this is OSU title year) and almost get beat by UC. I was at the game and 80% of the people in that stadium were OSU fans and that was considered as UC home game. Boise St and Utah and those teams that have great seasons will be judged on their schedule and for those teams to play a power it will be on the road...im not sure there is an answer...except for a playoff and that dont look promising
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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speaking of Gator Bait -- did anyone ever see the movie "Gator Bait II?"

I have it on VHS, it's pretty awesome. It's about a cajun wedding with this trashy blond girl in short shorts to a big Andre-the-Giant-type guy named Big T. Then some cajuns kidnap the bride and take her to a swamp hideout. The rest of the story is Big T trying to get her back while she tries to escape.

There is an incredible scene involving her in a very small top with short shorts and a visor driving away from the bad guys on a speedboat.

Awesome.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:45 PM
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Brian to even admit that you have that movie you should be given an award, my 2 cents concerning the sch. it is a double edge sword because most times you make those sch. out your team is very good and there is no way to predict that you will be that good in the future i.e. Fresno State had a few good turns whipping on the big boys, upgraded their sch. and team took a turn for the worse and they took a whipping this year, and most times like another poster mentioned your not going to get the big boys to give you a home and home they won't do it because they get no revenue from playing in Boise Idaho, schedule some cupcake at your home field pay them 20,000 or whatever and keep the rest, dont forget football is footing the bill for all those other title 9 sports you have to have. or whatever title it is!!! Boise State in a 1 game set-up could play with anyone but to asked them to play in the SEC I doubt that would be .500
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:55 PM
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Brian to even admit that you have that movie you should be given an award
Sadly, I never saw Gator Bait 1. I forgot -- it's actually called Gator Bait 2: Cajun Justice.

It's awesome. Nobody will watch it with me.

Tell me now, why would anyone NOT want to see this film?! She's in a swamp wearing short shorts and holding a snake and a shotgun for crying out loud!

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Old 01-10-2007, 02:17 PM
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Sadly, I never saw Gator Bait 1. I forgot -- it's actually called Gator Bait 2: Cajun Justice.

It's awesome. Nobody will watch it with me.

Tell me now, why would anyone NOT want to see this film?! She's in a swamp wearing short shorts and holding a snake and a shotgun for crying out loud!

Too funny, Brian... maybe we'll have to rent that one and watch it in the hotel! HAHA!!!
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Old 01-10-2007, 06:48 PM
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That same Oregon St team that they blew out beat USC so to suggest they played nothing is ridiculous. Besides, do you know how hard it is to schedule a game against a top 25 opponent for them? The BCS schools only play each other or cupcake in-state opponents in their non-conference games. A team like Boise St would love to play USC every year but USC would never put that game on their schedule. Just scoring Oregon St is a pretty big accomplishment for their schedule maker. Of course now that Oregon St lost we'll see if any Pac-10 school ever goes to Boise again. This is the typical response of the BCS conference lovers, look at their schedule. Yet the reality is they try and schedule as difficult of a schedule as they can manage but none of the big name schools want to play a school like Boise St.
i was suggesting they didn't play nearly as tough a schedule as others. i understand who they played, and who those opponents played. BUT they didn't play the same type of schedule as other teams in the top ten. i also understand how schedules are set up. but i was pointing out WHY they didn't get higher up in the final rankings. fact remains they played this schedule.
i don't LOVE the bcs--but strength of schedule is a factor--the same factor all teams have to go by.

i know that not all teams want to play them, just like bcs bowls didn't want them--ratings being what they are after. it's a harsh reality.

i want a playoff system. nothing else will do. but in the meantime, everyone knows the rules. for them to complain i feel is wrong-they know the way it's set up.

auburn a few years ago, when they went undefeated, had a legit gripe about the nat'l title. these guys don't.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:29 PM
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I know we shouldn't say never, but the biggest reason why a playoff won't happen anytime soon is simply $$$. Too much involved in the bowl games with the cities and tv.

I agree that Boise St couldn't compete with the big boys night in and night out, but I also believe that if a Division I school goes undefeated, wins their conference, and wins a BCS bowl, they should have consideration for the title. I don't care what conference they are in, eventually there will be a game in which they have to play with the big boys and they did and won. I realize it's not basketball, but I'm sure a few of us remember a certain Villanova team that had absolutely no business even being on the same court as the Ewing led Hoyas. Well they did that night. Or a USA Hockey team that did believe in miracles and produced one. That is the beauty of amateur athletics. When given a chance, legends are made of true underdogs.
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