Santa Anita Race 7 DQ

[Siena 16]

The DQ in today's 7th Race at Santa Anita should cost someone their job. because it sure cost someone a lot of money. Movie Star was never going to go through that hole and if he had horse he would have gotten through clean. If the poor kid S Arias last name was Nakatani he would have had himself $7500 and booted home a 45-1 shot. Nevertheless hard working handicappers would have had another shot at a multimillion dollar carryover.It also took the stewards 9 minutes to make a decision. must of been doing some calculating.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The DQ in today's 7th Race at Santa Anita should cost someone their job. because it sure cost someone a lot of money. Movie Star was never going to go through that hole and if he had horse he would have gotten through clean. If the poor kid S Arias last name was Nakatani he would have had himself $7500 and booted home a 45-1 shot. Nevertheless hard working handicappers would have had another shot at a multimillion dollar carryover.It also took the stewards 9 minutes to make a decision. must of been doing some calculating.

I agree with this.I have no particular reason to care (one way or the other,)but I know the horse would have stayed up with different odds and/or connections.I am o.k. with this being called a foul,but if so,then they need to do it for everybody,and they do not do that.The best horse was the original winner,and when it is obvious who the best horse was,they usually keep that horse up.Not in this case.They are inconsistent.

[ManilaRose]

What made it look even worse was the fact Nakatani got interviewed and said the winner wasn't the horse at fault.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ManilaRose

What made it look even worse was the fact Nakatani got interviewed and said the winner wasn't the horse at fault.

I think he said that the inside horse came out,and was the one he clipped hills with.

[outofthebox]

Im assuming that if they left the winner up there would have been another carryover..Surprised the Stronach yes men didnt tell the stewards to let it go for another big carryover. Imagine how much money would have been created for generally the weakest day of the week handle wise...I myself thought that #7 was was a dead piece when the real racing started at the head of the stretch. But that Nak did a great job of snatching up...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Im assuming that if they left the winner up there would have been another carryover..Surprised the Stronach yes men didnt tell the stewards to let it go for another big carryover. Imagine how much money would have been created for generally the weakest day of the week handle wise...I myself thought that #7 was was a dead piece when the real racing started at the head of the stretch. But that Nak did a great job of snatching up...

Yes, I wish Nak put that energy into his ride in the 5th(instead of the acting job in the 7th.)P VAL would have given him a 10 out of 10.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I will tell you what goes through the minds of these people.The horse Nak rode(who was fairly dead) was a Frankel.In the back of their minds,they don't want to worry about somebody like that btchin' endlessly about that foul,and so they enforce the rules(in this situation.)I guarantee you that if you change the players around,you will get a different decision.

[outofthebox]

I agree mostly with your assesment on that. Specially that Frankel trains for Stronach..And Frankel is a winer, thats for sure.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yes, I wish Nak put that energy into his ride in the 5th(instead of the acting job in the 7th.)P VAL would have given him a 10 out of 10.

Are you talking about that hand ride down the hill on #2. I really didnt notice it till the head ons, that was absolutely a no trie...I think he gave her a tap just before the wire, then she galloped out by everyone. Surely a prep to stretch out..

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Are you talking about that hand ride down the hill on #2. I really didnt notice it till the head ons, that was absolutely a no trie...I think he gave her a tap just before the wire, then she galloped out by everyone. Surely a prep to stretch out..

No,I am talking about the ride in the 5th(on Peace Accord.)The one where he is out of position,and as Trevor said "will need room." If you turn the race on half way through,you would think that the horse started from the 1 hole.You should not be stuck down there when you are on the 7 horse.You combine that with Victor riding huge on the 8 horse,and voila you get beat on the best horse.You know,I will give people a similar bad ride to look at,and they can see what happens when the same horse gets the better ride next out.Take a look at Tony Montana's ride last time.Very similar(although even worse.)Today,the horse was given a chance,and you see the result was much better.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Are you talking about that hand ride down the hill on #2. I really didnt notice it till the head ons, that was absolutely a no trie...I think he gave her a tap just before the wire, then she galloped out by everyone. Surely a prep to stretch out..

Alan...Scuds and I were discussing this the other day....Nak's head is nowhere near the track. Looks like he has zero desire to be out there.

[Scav]

Must be getting something sweeter then cash, and we all know there is only one thing sweeter then cash......

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

Must be getting something sweeter then cash, and we all know there is only one thing sweeter then cash......

Scuds said it must be night golf...i told him it had to be some side action....we all know that stuff moves mountains

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by T3B

Alan...Scuds and I were discussing this the other day....Nak's head is nowhere near the track. Looks like he has zero desire to be out there.

LOL....He is dreaming about nightgolfing later in the evening.Kev,I bet you he does do that stuff.He is pretty good(I hear,and saw him play Schrupp on TVG.)SCHRUPP can't play at all though,and Nak was LAUGHING AT HIM.

[jpops757]

I never saw an objection from any trainer or jock. Just the inquiry. That is the umusual thing. generaly if an inquiry changes the results an objection follows and inquiry.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL....He is dreaming about nightgolfing later in the evening.Kev,I bet you he does do that stuff.He is pretty good(I hear,and saw him play Schrupp on TVG.)SCHRUPP can't play at all though,and Nak was LAUGHING AT HIM.

I do alot of daydreaming, but it aint about night golf...God knows I get enough of that throughout the day.

[JudyGold]

Whats up with the 1st race at SA watch the head on replay. I was at the track and saw the two horses comes together with 1/16 of a mile to go.
Now just because it is baffert/baffert they let it go. Now before you go Jim Mora (classic "playoffs" rant)on me I think it was a 40/60 call to dq the horse but it still deserved a look.

[Left Bank]

Here is my thought on it all,and that is that CALIFORNIA RACING SUCKS!!!! If another horse even LOOKS at another horse out there,they take him down.The stewards out there are a bunch of CLOWNS,Just look at who some of them are[one is a TVG host}They have no consistency in their decisionmaking, and are totally influenced by the politics of the game out there.I NEVER wager on any of these tracks,due to what happened not only yesterday,but also in the past.Crappy racing,Period.This is just my opinion.

[Honu]

Failure to maintain a straight course and impedeing another horses forward progress are 2 reasons that the winner came down. Pretty simple.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Honu

Failure to maintain a straight course and impedeing another horses forward progress are 2 reasons that the winner came down. Pretty simple.

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(and overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.