The drugged racehorse

[Gander]

Theres nothing Pletcher horses cant do. The sooner you learn that the better you'll do. Style means nothing to them. That horse was as logical as Bee Charmer who took all sorts of weird money.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by JJP

I'm not sure Ramazutti winning was such a shock, it was the fact he did it without the lead. I thought he had to be on the lead to win a race like that, and there was other speed in the race. But he proved he could rate.

I totally agree. I didn't like him, and used six in the Pick-4 without him, but it was winning without the lead that suprised me as well. I didn't use him simply because he couldn't get the lead.

[Gander]

I am certainly not advocating that I loved Ramazutti. Truth is I was dying to play this race but I was broke. I would have probably keyed my bets around Devils Preacher and Spider Power and they both were up the track. But if I was going deep in pick 4's I would have used Ramazutti.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Drugged gamblers, what do you look for to spot them? I have several criteria that make me suspicious. No I can't PROVE any gambler was drugged, but lets not be naive here.

1. Step one: suspicious early betting action. Sometimes it hits you like a sledgehammer; they unexpectedly try to bet the derby in January. Some folks are delusional about pickingthe Derby winner early others are on drugs.

2. Shabby appearance in the betting line. Off balance, bad attitude and ready to to fall at any moment. Signs of lethary and confusion.

3. No speed. They are trying to read the book even tho they can't seem to focus on the small print. They are completely oblivious to me screaming from the back of the line.

4. Often switch betting strategy at the window. It doesn't have to be a better strategy. They bet horses you know are stiffs.

5. Last and not least, they ask you for money.

If you suspect a gambler fits these criteria, runs away from them and mark him down as one to avoid next time out. There are several at my local Magna crapped on track as we speak. I will not name them but if you take a whiff when you enter, you can figure it out.

This is a classic post

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Thanks!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is a classic post

Just let us know when you've got one "ready to run" so we don't have to go through these visual observations by painting a small red "X" on his left hindquarters.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Just let us know when you've got one "ready to run" so we don't have to go through these visual observations by painting a small red "X" on his left hindquarters.

I may 'drug' the one I have in on thursday at FG. lol! I guess I didn't give her enough juice the last few races.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I may 'drug' the one I have in on thursday at FG. lol! I guess I didn't give her enough juice the last few races.

I'll be sure to look for those tell-tale signs in the post parade.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll be sure to look for those tell-tale signs in the post parade.

If i have the blue sports jacket on, we are a go!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If i have the blue sports jacket on, we are a go!

Who needs the DRF when you have the blue sports jacket???

Maybe you better add when the mare or gelding has suddenly developed a extra pair of testicles or if the horse has a full beard in the mounting yard
to the list


Victoria hit by drugs spiral
By Michael Manley
January 31, 2007 VICTORIAN racing has been rocked by a spate of swab irregularities. Four horses, two of them stablemates, have returned testosterone levels higher than the permissible threshold.

One has been confirmed positive. Fiesta Boy, who was tested before he won at Stawell on December 9, was confirmed positive after both his A-sample and B-sample swabs returned high levels of testosterone.

The B-samples from the other three horses are being analysed. The results will be known by the end of the week.

Fiesta Boy is trained by Albert Opperman at Millicent in eastern South Australia. Stewards have inspected Opperman's stable.

The other three swabs also related to races in country Victoria in December. Racing Victoria Limited has not released any other details other than the horses are from both Melbourne and country Victoria stables.

RVL chief steward Des Gleeson issued a notice to all trainers yesterday.

He said he was concerned trainers could be using a contaminated product.

"It's very unusual for such a lot of positive findings to come out in a group like this," Gleeson said.

"We thought it would be prudent to contact all trainers and let them know what is happening. I'm not aware of a reason why we have had these positives. Investigations are still continuing."

Gleeson said several years ago trainers had used a contaminated product called Repair.

"We haven't sent out a similar notice since then," he said.

"While the reasons for the laboratory findings are not known at this time, trainers should take all proper care if administering any substance to horses under their care."



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[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Magic_Idol

Maybe you better add when the mare or gelding has suddenly developed a extra pair of testicles or if the horse has a full beard in the mounting yard
to the list

That reminds me of this girl who used to personal train when I did at Bally's. She was a pretty girl, but really wanted to get into fitness competing as quickly as possible and took steroids...a few weeks later she was pimply faced and walking like a guy. LOL

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

That reminds me of this girl who used to personal train when I did at Bally's. She was a pretty girl, but really wanted to get into fitness competing as quickly as possible and took steroids...a few weeks later she was pimply faced and walking like a guy. LOL

Got her number for me??

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

Got her number for me??

Since I know you have the greatest girlfriend....looking for a new bodyguard in the city?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Since I know you have the greatest girlfriend....looking for a new bodyguard in the city?

Yes I do
A bodyguard? For me? That'd be like getting Tiger Woods' caddy to hit golf balls for him!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

Yes I do
A bodyguard? For me? That'd be like getting Tiger Woods' caddy to hit golf balls for him!

ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!

[Swap Fliparoo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Since I know you have the greatest girlfriend....looking for a new bodyguard in the city?

[Swap Fliparoo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Just be very leery of the drugged bettor...but I'm sure we'll never catch him in the $2 line.

It's like the opposite of the $50 Minimum line... ours is for the pretty method people who beat the boys by betting w-p-s on the bombs (well, at least one does!)... the other just totes a camera and runs through bushes and security to take pictures. On the upside... there are no staggering and confused handicappers fighting for space on the paddock rail.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Swap Fliparoo

It's like the opposite of the $50 Minimum line... ours is for the pretty method people who beat the boys by betting w-p-s on the bombs (well, at least one does!)... the other just totes a camera and runs through bushes and security to take pictures. On the upside... there are no staggering and confused handicappers fighting for space on the paddock rail.

Slow Determination could take them ALL down!

[Swap Fliparoo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Slow Determination could take them ALL down!

BWAAA HAAA HAAA, how could i forget?? Especially effective at Saratoga