The Two Old Guys

[Thunder Gulch]

Nothing personal, but the whole story has to be garbage. I really don't think you could win 30 of 31 playing claimers, even if the race was fixed. 20 of 31 would barely be believable.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Most of the time they are better company. Just have to remember the carrots and apples!

Thanks for reminding me... I need to stop at the grocery store on the way home and grab a bag of carrots.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Exceller

If you are saying you bet $1000 on different occasions on different horses that is believable though.

This is what I was saying, and for the record, I have put $2,000 on a horse to place before on Pinnacle, that I KNOW for sure

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

And just who the **** annointed you the mother ****ing prince of veracity and seer of all things true and untrue?

You claim to be able to make a call and find out this or that. You know who did or didn't broker a horse deal. Sure. Just as sure as when you first say you're going to bet $250 on the horse, then it turns into $150 when it runs up the track. Uh huh, of course, sure. Uh huh.

How the hell do you know what an offshore book will or won't take in the last few minutes before post? Did you make a quick phone call on that as well?

How the hell do you know how/where/when these people placed their wagers? You're watching the money? Good keep watching. Take a look at the crystal ball / magic 8-ball / shrunken head, whatever.

You sound ****ing ridiculous. As you would say, so shall I ... on the 1% chance you know anything, I won't refer to you as a stupid ****ing idiot.

Aside from that, you're a great guy.

I did check out Oracles horse and he might have bought him, it just wasn't for IEAH. He probably bought him directly from Ritvo. As for the offshore question, lets just say I have some family members that take bets for a living. They sometimes try to pawn off bets to the offshore books and they won't take them. Offshore accounts are very sophisticated, they don't allow people to hammer them with wiseguy picks. Do you live in the real world? Yeah, I sound ridiculous but the guy who claims to know people who picked 30 out of 31 doesn't. You can't be that stupid. Can you? Con Artists love you types.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Thanks for reminding me... I need to stop at the grocery store on the way home and grab a bag of carrots.

Go by 7/11 and get some and grab a Big Gulp too!

I keep a bag of horse Peppermint treats in my car in case I forget. It is quite a commical event. Hose off Buck and I put him on the cross ties. Head to my car to get his treats. He watches me and does a low deep whinney. He knows where I am headed and doesn't take his eyes off of me. Everyone at the barn laughs. He knows the routine.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Scav

This is what I was saying, and for the record, I have put $2,000 on a horse to place before on Pinnacle, that I KNOW for sure

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus, Tom...

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

This is what I was saying, and for the record, I have put $2,000 on a horse to place before on Pinnacle, that I KNOW for sure

They would take a $2000 place bet without question at a legit track. They do not take $7500 win bets at the post. They just don't do it. Do you think they are in the business to lose money?

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Most of the time they are better company. Just have to remember the carrot and apples!

If you remembered that w/ the EX he would be better company too.

Didn't mean to butt in, but I couldn't resist the carrot and apples thing.

[Scav]

1) You can start betting on Pinnacle at like 8am CST, how do you know they didn't put 1k an hour until post?

2) I have personally put two $1,000 wagers, that were in my wager q, with horses in the gate, to place on a horse at Belmont....I am going to try and find the wagers tonight to prove it to you

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by whorstman

If you remembered that w/ the EX he would be better company too.

Didn't mean to butt in, but I couldn't resist the carrot and apples thing.

This might be too much information, but he couldn't handle his carrot and apples... laziest P.O.S. EVER (even for sex.)

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus, Tom...

Maybe he will listen to a woman, Cajun tell him to stop pissing his money away betting on things like boxing. I honestly feel bad for this guy. He is basically redistributing his money to "people in the know". $2000 place bets, are you insane.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by whorstman

If you remembered that w/ the EX he would be better company too.

Didn't mean to butt in, but I couldn't resist the carrot and apples thing.

Just don't ask me to add up anything when I get home tonight Whorst!

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

This might be too much information, but he couldn't handle his carrot and apples... laziest P.O.S. EVER (even for sex.)

OMG, well if he's not the laziest, he for sure is in the top 3. Wow, no wonder.

They dont bet through an off-shore account. They go to Hoosier Park in Anderson Indiana to bet. But these guys are my neighbors. I dont think they are con-artists. They had legit jobs before they retired. One was a dentist and the other worked at eli lilly. Now they both work for Avis Rent A Car driving cars back and forth two days a week. I have known these guys for several years. I dont know why anyone would make up a story about losing $2500. But they are good handicappers. And they won 18 in a tow until today. Before that they won 13 in a row. That is very plausible if you pick your spots and get lucky. But these are good men.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I did check out Oracles horse and he might have bought him, it just wasn't for IEAH. He probably bought him directly from Ritvo. As for the offshore question, lets just say I have some family members that take bets for a living. They sometimes try to pawn off bets to the offshore books and they won't take them. Offshore accounts are very sophisticated, they don't allow people to hammer them with wiseguy picks. Do you live in the real world? Yeah, I sound ridiculous but the guy who claims to know people who picked 30 out of 31 doesn't. You can't be that stupid. Can you? Con Artists love you types.

Ok, I take it all back. You are indeed a stupid f'ing idiot. You were wrong about the Oracle horse, you have no idea about sportsbooks and you obviously can't count as well as a ****ing 2nd grader having ****ed up the total win pool you quoted on the race. What kind of fool "Watches" the money closely in the last couple minutes and thinks it really matters. Nobody with any ****ing sense, that's who. And just because your fateher or mother may be runners for a numbers operation means absolutely nothing in terms of you knowing how sportsbooks work. I've used 3 online sportsbooks and I can assure you two of them will take the kind of action we're talking about here on a short-priced horse, either online or by phone.

Stick to talking about what you are knowledgeable on. Let us all know when you find it.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Just don't ask me to add up anything when I get home tonight Whorst!

Definately. I won't be asking for help at tax time.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Maybe he will listen to a woman, Cajun tell him to stop pissing his money away betting on things like boxing. I honestly feel bad for this guy. He is basically redistributing his money to "people in the know". $2000 place bets, are you insane.

First off, when have I bet boxing? I have bet on alot of stuff, but to this date, not boxing....ever

You feel bad for me? No, I feel bad for you that you have to condrict everything people have to say.

If I am up 5k, what is playing a $2,000 place bet matter, I am playing with their money. When i am up, I go for the jugglar.....This isn't my primary source of income, when it becomes that i will play tighter

Oh, they made 3 seperate win bets. I will get my losing ticket tonight.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Ok, I take it all back. You are indeed a stupid f'ing idiot. You were wrong about the Oracle horse, you have no idea about sportsbooks and you obviously can't count as well as a ****ing 2nd grader having ****ed up the total win pool you quoted on the race. What kind of fool "Watches" the money closely in the last couple minutes and thinks it really matters. Nobody with any ****ing sense, that's who. And just because your fateher or mother may be runners for a numbers operation means absolutely nothing in terms of you knowing how sportsbooks work. I've used 3 online sportsbooks and I can assure you two of them will take the kind of action we're talking about here on a short-priced horse, either online or by phone.

Stick to talking about what you are knowledgeable on. Let us all know when you find it.

Sure, I am the idiot. I am just gonna guess you never even had enough money to make a large bet with a sports book, because THEY DO NOT TAKE THEM IN THE LAST MINUTE OF BETTING. What don't you understand about that? You are almost as full of crap as the other guy.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by whorstman

Definately. I won't be asking for help at tax time.

Just not after I have had a drink, which I think I will tonight. Having a little get together to wish me luck in my show this weekend. DRINK UP!