Most disappointing Sires - Page 4

Seattleallstar · #61 03-08-2007, 12:56 PM

da BId
alysheba

and in his last years Deputy Minister

keep in mind sres like Storm Cat, AP Indy, and MR P were always mated to the best broodmares in the world so of course they had more of a chance to produce superstars.

Distored Humor, Awesome Again gets my vote as the two best studs in the past 5 years.

#62 03-08-2007, 01:35 PM

Arazi...totally mismanaged. Does anyone even know where this poor guy is?

paisjpq · #63 03-08-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

da BId
alysheba

and in his last years Deputy Minister

keep in mind sres like Storm Cat, AP Indy, and MR P were always mated to the best broodmares in the world so of course they had more of a chance to produce superstars.

Distored Humor, Awesome Again gets my vote as the two best studs in the past 5 years.

those two have been successful but remember they are owned by 2 of the largest farms in the Bluegrass and therefore are supported by many of the farm's best mares....which goes a long way in making them the good sires they have become...Just like AP indy and SC

Cannon Shell · #64 03-08-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

those two have been successful but remember they are owned by 2 of the largest farms in the Bluegrass and therefore are supported by many of the farm's best mares....which goes a long way in making them the good sires they have become...Just like AP indy and SC

I dont think that Distored Humor got a great book the first few years. He really overachieved and I don't know anyone who thought that he would be this good. My friend did buy a share and has cashed in for a LARGE profit.

paisjpq · #65 03-08-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think that Distored Humor got a great book the first few years. He really overachieved and I don't know anyone who thought that he would be this good. My friend did buy a share and has cashed in for a LARGE profit.

frankly I am still having a hard time with how good he is...
I don't know what his book was...but I have to believe that the farm must have sent him some good ones to get him going...but I hear what you are saying.

Cannon Shell · #66 03-08-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

frankly I am still having a hard time with how good he is...
I don't know what his book was...but I have to believe that the farm must have sent him some good ones to get him going...but I hear what you are saying.

No one will admit this now but the thought was if he did not get off to a good start they would move him quickly to a regional market. Of course he may have been a way better racehorse .....

alysheba4 · #67 03-08-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think that Distored Humor got a great book the first few years. He really overachieved and I don't know anyone who thought that he would be this good. My friend did buy a share and has cashed in for a LARGE profit.

........does your friend live in calabasas ca.

Cannon Shell · #68 03-08-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4

........does your friend live in calabasas ca.

No. Lexington,KY.

avance2000 · #69 03-08-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bmont22

Secretariat

yeah what a failure. i mean the best two sires that his mares have produced is Storm Cat and AP Indy. who ever heard of those two?

slotdirt · #70 03-08-2007, 04:41 PM

Also Gone West, and several others. Perfect Soul is another.

Pedigree Ann · #71 03-08-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Cajun, for the kind of horse he was, he was a disappointment...And there is no bigger fan of the Bid than me.

Affirmed wasn't the sire Alydar was either and part of that is my belief that Affirmed was a bit "hopped up" for his races.

That is so bogus of a reason. Storm Cat and Mr. Prospector were neither of them the best of their generation; neither was a champion at any point of their careers. Storm Cat's contemporaries Tasso, Broad Brush, Ferdinand, and Personal Flag all accomplished more on the racetrack than he did. Mr. P was a very minor member of the same generation as Secretariat, Sham, and Forego. The best runners quite often don't make the best sires.

Pedigree Ann · #72 03-08-2007, 04:47 PM

Lure was not very fertile - sired a very few foals; more than Precisionist, who got I think 4 foals total, but not great gobs of them. One of his sons, Orpen, was a G1 winner in France and is a good stallion. Once it was clear he wasn't going to sire 100 foals a year, he was shipped off to (?) Ireland.

Pedigree Ann · #73 03-08-2007, 04:51 PM

[quote=FairPlay]Here is a list of all of the HOY's for the 1990's:

1993 - Kotashaan
[quote]

Kotashaan was exported to Japan as soon as his North American racing career was over. Never had any runners in the US. Did you check the sires lists in Japan to see how he did?

slotdirt · #74 03-08-2007, 05:09 PM

There are about 1,000 horses out there who accomplished more on the track than did Storm Cat.

satan's twin · #75 03-08-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah....his progeny is like Murder's Row around here.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/shoulda+pulledout

I should have swallowed the last half of the can Diet Coke I was drinking before I clicked on your link. Most of it projected out through my nose onto the laptop screen when I started having a seizure from laughing so hard.

ArlJim78 · #76 03-08-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by satan's twin

I should have swallowed the last half of the can Diet Coke I was drinking before I clicked on your link. Most of it projected out through my nose onto the laptop screen when I started having a seizure from laughing so hard.

That link caused many drinks to spill.

AeWingnut · #77 03-08-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah....his progeny is like Murder's Row around here.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/shoulda+pulledout

I'm laughing so hard I'm dying

paisjpq · #78 03-08-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

Arazi...totally mismanaged. Does anyone even know where this poor guy is?

I think he is in Australia...Magic Idol might know.

Cajungator26 · #79 03-08-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

I think he is in Australia...Magic Idol might know.

You're right.

Per Thoroughbredtimes...

Arazi
1989, Blushing Groom (Fr) – Danseur Fabuleux, by Northern Dancer
Standing at: Independent Stallions
First Year at Stud: 1993

Independent Stallions
P.O. Box 282, Nagambie, VIC 3608 Australia
Phone: (03) 5794 2248 Fax: (03) 5794 2246 Email: stallionstation@bigpond.com

Byebyemermaid · #80 03-08-2007, 06:54 PM

This could get me some negative press but Affirmed dissapointed me.Alydar was a much better sire.