Dubai World Cup - Page 4

Danzig · #61 03-31-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Randall, you've gotta remember: This is the place where people call Bernardini an overrated cow for losing by a length to Invasor.

i really wish he'd been there today. but wishes don't mean a whole helluva lot.

SentToStud · #62 03-31-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

I agree. If Invasor runs his race, I don't think Tap can win. But if Invasor runs porly, I think Tap can beat Discreet Cat. I played two modest Exactas:

Invasor/Prem Tap ($14 for $2)
Prem Tap/Discreet Cat ($33 for $2)

10 mtp.

new motto... "SentToStud: Giving out winners since 1:45 today."

SentToStud · #63 03-31-2007, 02:03 PM

I'll be very surprised if Discreet Cat comes out of this race without some type of injury. Say what you will but he is far better than what we saw today. For him not to pass a horse in the stretch, I'd be surprised if he didn't get hurt. He also didn't look like he was moving well through the upper stretch.

brockguy · #64 03-31-2007, 02:04 PM

Invasor ran brilliantly, he was always travelling great and did the job so well - he's just such a tough horse.. disappointed DC didnt show more but there's doubts to whether he would have beaten Invasor anyway.
he only wins by just enough it seems Invasor, but boy is he some horse!

ArlJim78 · #65 03-31-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

He was 2nd.

Congrats ArlJim..... on your many wins today!

thanks MMSC, but I only had a few.
my main man Invasor really made me proud, and a lot of money.
besides the pick three i cashed a large tri because I just had a feeling that DC was going to be out and you'll be happy to know that i keyed Bullish Luck third.

SentToStud · #66 03-31-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

thanks MMSC, but I only had a few.
my main man Invasor really made me proud, and a lot of money.
besides the pick three i cashed a large tri because I just had a feeling that DC was going to be out and you'll be happy to know that i keyed Bullish Luck third.

Well done AJ.

And it's only lunchtime.

ArlJim78 · #67 03-31-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Well done AJ.

And it's only lunchtime.

thanks sts
I know, trying to decide what to do next. Just been soaking this up for awhile.

Looks like maybe time to dive in to GS, the big races are coming up.

Scurlogue Champ · #68 03-31-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

thanks MMSC, but I only had a few.
my main man Invasor really made me proud, and a lot of money.
besides the pick three i cashed a large tri because I just had a feeling that DC was going to be out and you'll be happy to know that i keyed Bullish Luck third.

Congrats from me as well. I'm glad someone did well.

I keyed that South African filly in the Golden Shaheen in a bunch of pick three's and she didn't run a step.

Good for you on getting some wins.

my miss storm cat · #69 03-31-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

and you'll be happy to know that i keyed Bullish Luck third.

Good for you!!!

* * *

Replays...

http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/media/v...ideo_2007.asp#

http://www.ntra.com/video.aspx?id=24354

philcski · #70 03-31-2007, 03:30 PM

I hit the pick 3 with Invasor, but felt it was a little short. Shouldn't in two 16 horse fields a 11-1 (7th choice) with 6-1 (5th choice) (both foreign horses at that) pay better than $268 (almost exactly the parlay value)? Or am I overestimating the blind stupidity of the American public?

I was expecting it to be in the $500-600 range.

brianwspencer · #71 03-31-2007, 06:27 PM

What a race! I finally got home and saw it. I've never been a huge fan of Discreet Cat, but I've thought that he was a very talented animal. I don't think that this race does much to disprove his talent, because we know it's there. But like Bernardini, I've never thought he was quite as good as some people make him sound, especially when stacked next to Invasor like Bernie was.

I think that this race is less about showing that Cat is not as good as some say (even though he's not), as it is that maybe we can finally get around to giving Invasor the props he deserves and has been deserving of since the Pimlico race. I think that great horses overcome adversity and trips that they aren't used to having, and Cat showed nothing today at all. We can blame him being at the back all we want, but Invasor has run races out of his comfort zone and has eaten the track at Gulfstream and still overcome it.

I've always thought that Skip Away was the best horse "of my time," but I may very well have been watching the best horse of my time today.

Hey, a few more starts and he'll be the richest racehorse by American-calculated earnings, right? What's he need, like another 2 million to pass Skip?

brianwspencer · #72 03-31-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Ten billion WP on Invasor.

With that, I'm out of here for the day -- can't know who wins until I get home to watch it!

Won a cool thirty and a half bil.

Pointg5 · #73 03-31-2007, 09:12 PM

It had nothing to do with the jockey. DC is a glass horse, a talented and but fragile horse. I wouldn't be surprised if that's it for him, something had to happen. I still don't think he beats Invasor on his best day. Invasor is a tremendous horse, I think he won on guts alone, he didn't look like he had much of a burst at the end, he just broke Premium Tap's heart.

GenuineRisk · #74 04-01-2007, 01:03 AM

After all my bragging about my OTB channel showing the races, my DVR didn't tape either it or ABC (Why God? What have I done? Why must you curse me this way? But I thank you, God, for not breaking my DVR until Battlestar Galactica was over for the season. Truly you are merciful sometimes).

So-- it was a heck of a challenge, going to NTRA and clicking on the race without accidentally seeing who won it. But I managed to keep from seeing the outcome before seeing the race and now my neighbors are scared about the screaming coming from my apartment at 1AM.

Couldn't be happier with the outcome. Now all I can hope for is the Sheik's desire to have a two-time BCC winner...

Danzig · #75 04-01-2007, 02:18 AM

just read that invasors time was the second fastest in the races history, 1.59 and change, only dubai millenium ran it faster.
they're hoping to bring him back in the suburban. if he manages to repeat in the bcc, he'll pass cigar on the earnings list.

brockguy · #76 04-01-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5

It had nothing to do with the jockey. DC is a glass horse, a talented and but fragile horse. I wouldn't be surprised if that's it for him, something had to happen. I still don't think he beats Invasor on his best day. Invasor is a tremendous horse, I think he won on guts alone, he didn't look like he had much of a burst at the end, he just broke Premium Tap's heart.

I think it was Tap who was running on guts alone at the end.. Invasor is a like a train at the end of his races..he builds up momentum for a few furlongs and at the end, he is literally flying, he doesnt have the flashy instant bursts like others, but his way of running is so effective!!

ArlJim78 · #77 04-01-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

I think it was Tap who was running on guts alone at the end.. Invasor is a like a train at the end of his races..he builds up momentum for a few furlongs and at the end, he is literally flying, he doesnt have the flashy instant bursts like others, but his way of running is so effective!!

You have to remember, some people are slow to catch on to these obvious things. He has the best running style I have ever seen. He is like a train, he gets going and is unstoppable and he never seems to get tired.

Pointg5 · #78 04-01-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

You have to remember, some people are slow to catch on to these obvious things. He has the best running style I have ever seen. He is like a train, he gets going and is unstoppable and he never seems to get tired.

He wasn't rolling like he usually does, I think he despises that track, but tries so hard. If you think that was a normal run for Invasor, I think you might want to watch that race again.

brianwspencer · #79 04-01-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5

He wasn't rolling like he usually does, I think he despises that track, but tries so hard. If you think that was a normal run for Invasor, I think you might want to watch that race again.

I don't see how that race was any different than his others. If he "wasn't rolling" and still ran the second fastest World Cup (behind the GREAT Dubai Millenium), I can't even imagine what he would have run if he had been running his "normal" race. What? Fifty lengths and a 1:52 flat?

He looked like he was going perfectly normally to me. Sitting off the leaders, coming to the leaders, wearing the leaders down. It's his MO, in fact.

ArlJim78 · #80 04-01-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5

He wasn't rolling like he usually does, I think he despises that track, but tries so hard. If you think that was a normal run for Invasor, I think you might want to watch that race again.

Have watched it, you see something different than I do, and frankly something that wasn't there.

why was it not normal? what is the evidence that he despises the track?
define "not rolling like he usually does". Are aware of how fast the time was? I can't wait to see the various speed figures for that race.

It was the race last year that was not the real Invasor for whatever reason.