NEW BC races will NOT be G1!!!???

[Linny]

Originally Posted by JJP

I never look at the graded designations because the committee does such a lousy job. I'm sure the class oriented handicappers gave Dominican no chance last week because he was an ungraded stakes winner. Meanwhile, Acey Deucy and Sutra are Gr. 1 winners.

Dominican is now a G1 winner as well.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

The thing is, if you have some horse that gets lucky on turf and it's graded, they can use that to jump the queue in the TC trail. I mean graded stakes earnings are graded stakes earnings right? Turf or dirt? Almost dangerous to make it a graded race til you know what you got but they need proper preps or they just shouldn't do it.

Or you could just hold out for the Delta Jackpot -- an equally useless big money event disguised as a graded stakes race which could affect the Derby picture. A second there is worth more than a second in the Wood, and worth the same as a second in the Arkansas Derby. How about that? I'm more worried about that race than I am about the Juvenile Turf sending a horse to the Derby.

[Linny]

How many graded stakes are there on grass to worry about? Most of them have $100k purses and th 60k winner's share wouldn't usually get them to the Derby. The early season (and late 2yo) grass races are not worth enough ($ wise) to matter. Besides, part of Barbaro's "graded total" was from grass racing.

If a horse is from Eurpoe, all his graded earning are from turf. They may run a couple of G3's on "All Weather" surfaces but they are rare. Would you keep out a qualified E#uro because of his lack of "dirt" earnings.