Rags to Riches/Belmont try?

tiznowthegreat · #1 05-02-2007, 11:32 AM

Does anybody else find it comical that she is 5/2 on the ML?

What do you all think she will go off at?

slotdirt · #2 05-02-2007, 11:49 AM

You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

Bigsmc · #3 05-02-2007, 11:51 AM

I wouldn't take less than even money in this race.

She will not be a single on my P4 ticket.

whodey17 · #4 05-02-2007, 11:52 AM

Rags To Riches is no lock. This is a very good field with very competitive speed figures. I think that 5/2 in a 14 hore field is about right. I really like Octave in here.

philcski · #5 05-02-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

Forget the speed figures. Does she stand out when you consider the fact that (a) she's only got 4 career starts, (b) never left Cali, (c) comes in off an 8 week layoff, and (d) the fillies behind her have not done anything of note to validate the performances?

5/2, 3-1 is fair value. Even money (or less) is not.

PPerfectfan · #6 05-02-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Forget the speed figures. Does she stand out when you consider the fact that (a) she's only got 4 career starts, (b) never left Cali, (c) comes in off an 8 week layoff, and (d) the fillies behind her have not done anything of note to validate the performances?

5/2, 3-1 is fair value. Even money (or less) is not.

That is why I am going to try and beat her in this spot. Who wants to eat chalk?? I think she is the best filly by far, but this is a race to try and beat her in. And some of the fillies that are in this race are nice fillies.

philcski · #7 05-02-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I won't be betting her at such a short price either, but come on, she's a huge standout. Who has run fast enough to beat her?

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

Thunder Gulch · #8 05-02-2007, 12:44 PM

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

sundaysilenceforever · #9 05-02-2007, 12:51 PM

I love Rags, and think she will win. But at a price I like High Again, with High Heels and Octave. Kinda concerned about the distance for Sealy Hill.

blackthroatedwind · #10 05-02-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

declansharbor · #11 05-02-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

Was that the race where GG had her in the 6-7 path the whole trip?? If so, that was one of the more impressive performances by a filly this year..

sundaysilenceforever · #12 05-02-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Was that the race where GG had her in the 6-7 path the whole trip?? If so, that was one of the more impressive performances by a filly this year..

By almost ANY horse this year, male or female. I am excited to see how she does in this stronger field. What a great race it will be!

ArlJim78 · #13 05-02-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

agree 100%, the race you refer to was unreal. As much as I was impressed with Curlins 2 turn debut, RTR running 3-4 wide on both turns, at Santa Anita, and running down more experienced fillies was a real jaw dropper.

ArlJim78 · #14 05-02-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't get it

don't worry, you're not alone.

Cajungator26 · #15 05-02-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't get it

She's saying that people who drop a horse because of the odds are idiots. She referenced Ouija Board (who was an obvious single.) I don't know of many on here who DIDN'T use Ouija Board, but whatever... maybe Gander tossed her? LOL

KY_Sasquash · #16 05-02-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

I think Rags will win in a jog if the track is fast. Im tossing Anna though, dont like her, i do like Autobahn Girl and Tough Tiz's Sis underneath and will play a few backup tickets with them on top

hockey2315 · #17 05-02-2007, 02:38 PM

Can someone with the PPs tell me who the speed in the race is please? Thanks. . .

Cajungator26 · #18 05-02-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Okay, now I get it. I see her point, just couldn't understand what she wrote.

3 and a half years of deciphering and I can sometimes get it.

miraja2 · #19 05-02-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Can someone with the PPs tell me who the speed in the race is please? Thanks. . .

Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan will most likely be on or near the lead. But there is no need to take my word for it, because the PPs are free on DRF.com this week.
Here you go: http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07kentuckyoaks.pdf
Personally I think this race is pretty wide open. I think Rags is a bit overrated, and there are 3 or 4 others here that wouldn't surprise me at all.

miraja2 · #20 05-02-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

3 and a half years of deciphering and I can sometimes get it.

The "words" like causve and mustve tend to throw me off.