Larry Hughes sucks

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

The play with Lebron at the top of the key was drawn up like they had the lead, or it was a tie. You dont close out a game like that, no outs at all. Any fool knows you dont run down a clock and hope for a mircale

Tell me how much time is left in the game if Detroit immediately rebounds the LeBron miss and they foul?? I honestly don't know, but I would estimate about 6 seconds. I could be wrong, but Hughes grabbed the rebound, shot, Verajao tipped missed they rebounded and there were still near 2 seconds left.

6 seconds is more than enough time to get a game tying 3 pointer off if they hit both free throws.

[Mortimer]

Say whatever you want. LeBron James is the person most responsible for the turnaround of the franchise...not Anderson Verajao, Sasha Pavlovic, Eric Snow, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes. LeBron James is the catalyst for the improvement of the franchise, end of story. You can keep slobbering about the subject and think something else is driving it, but that would just be slobbering as I said.
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And I certainly did.



You neatly wanted to contend James alone was the reason for the turn around....failing to mention almost the whole doggoned TEAM turned over.


Most responsible ...yes.

Soley....no.......as you wanted to indicate in your prior statement after accusing someone else of disregarding fact.






But that's what "witnesses" like to do.













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SOMETING LONG HEAH!!

[Mortimer]

I will now remove myself and let the typed facts speak for themselves.







The "master" has neatly painted himself into the proverbial frog corner.

































GOOD!!!

[The Bid]

If the play wasnt drawn up as a last possession play probably about 8 seconds. Lebron dribbled around at the top of the key before driving into a triple team and missing. Youre not going to get a foul called in that situation, so why force a bad shot. They should have taken a decent shot, and got the board, fouled, etc. My arguement is that the play was drawn up as a final possession play like it was a tie. Sure you can get lucky and get a tip, or get a second shot by Larry Hughes who cant hit the broad side of a barn, however thats not what you are looking for. In that spot they should have been trying to get an open look and had something to fall back on. Not shoot from the hip and prayed for a tip, or hughes to hit a shot he hasnt hit all year.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Say whatever you want. LeBron James is the person most responsible for the turnaround of the franchise...not Anderson Verajao, Sasha Pavlovic, Eric Snow, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes. LeBron James is the catalyst for the improvement of the franchise, end of story. You can keep slobbering about the subject and think something else is driving it, but that would just be slobbering as I said.
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And I certainly did.



You neatly wanted to contend James alone was the reason for the turn around....failing to mention almost the whole doggoned TEAM turned over.


Most responsible ...yes.

Soley....no.......as you wanted to indicate in your prior statement after accusing someone else of disregarding fact.






But that's what "witnesses" like to do.













Mos' honobur James tun whor team lound......arr by serf!













SOMETING LONG HEAH!!

cant' keep up with me can you mortimer. I never once said James was "solely" responsible for the turnaround...you did. Don't put words into my mouth. I was responding to a post which stated James was overrated, I simply stated some facts as to what the team had done since James got there. If the best you can do is make stuff up that I supposedly said...you are not fit to discuss things with me. You are not up to my standard or even close. Despite your spacing. You can't keep up wiht me, and never could and never will...ever.

[Mortimer]

And I am fer DEM SHOO proud I have eaten the MainCourses lunch.





Pies for everyone!!







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[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

I will now remove myself and let the typed facts speak for themselves.







The "master" has neatly painted himself into the proverbial frog corner.

































GOOD!!!

Nice to see you giving up. You have no ability to keep up with me, and never will. REading comprehension 101. An ability you lack.

[Mortimer]

Silly, silly man. Before LeBron got to Cleveland the team hadn't had a 30 win season in over 3 years. The team was 15-67 the season before LeBron got there. In two years he had them over .500. They have won 3 playoff series in the last 2 years after having not won one since 1993. They have back to back 50 win seasons for only the second time in close to 40 years in existence.

HE hit not one, but two game winning shots in the playoffs last year. At age 22, LeBron has 15 playoff wins...I think at that age, Bird and Jordan had a total of zero combined.

Why bother with facts when making things up is so much better
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BIG LIAH!

[horseofcourse]

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thud.

[Mortimer]

Nice to see you giving up. You have no ability to keep up with me, and never will. REading comprehension 101. An ability you lack.
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[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Silly, silly man. Before LeBron got to Cleveland the team hadn't had a 30 win season in over 3 years. The team was 15-67 the season before LeBron got there. In two years he had them over .500. They have won 3 playoff series in the last 2 years after having not won one since 1993. They have back to back 50 win seasons for only the second time in close to 40 years in existence.

HE hit not one, but two game winning shots in the playoffs last year. At age 22, LeBron has 15 playoff wins...I think at that age, Bird and Jordan had a total of zero combined.

Why bother with facts when making things up is so much better
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See above!



Round eye lie!!





BIG LIAH!

me saying "he had them over .500" is not the same as saying he is solely responsible for their improvement. I could say Mike Brown got them to 50 wins last year, and that doesn't mean Mike Brown is the only reason they got to 50 wins. Try again, brutus.

[horseofcourse]

why do I trouble you so much mortimer?? what is it about me??

[Mortimer]

Fo radies......you give MainCos 2 dollah........he become Fled Galvin....mayer plostitute.....he rove you rong time.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Fo radies......you give MainCos 2 dollah........he become Fled Galvin....mayer plostitute.....he rove you rong time.

Better effort but still pales compared to my efforts.

[horseofcourse]

Enjoy the Dr Phil show today mortimer, can't say it will be much help however. Maybe a synoptic friend will be on the show for you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think Ilgauskas is a guy you could do that stuff with...but he was on the bench becuase Verajao got minutes with his play.

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

The Cavs got a shot from LeBron, a wide open 8 footer from Hughes, and a tip attempt from Verajao on that possession. What on earth more could you ask for??/ If Detroit gets the rebound there are 6 seconds left, and a quick foul and they do get a second possession. AFter 2 shots...a tip in and a Detroit rebound there were still close to 2 seconds left in the game when the foul was committed. The TNT guys are clueless and clueless at times. They are flat out wrong analyzing the last possession.

The shots they got were much better than if they throw the ball in and whip up a wild 3 pointer in 2 seconds just to lengthen the game.

Very true. They got a good posession. They got 2 very makable shots and a tip attempt. There surely could have been a foul called on Hamilton. Hughes makes the shot and everything is forgotten.

[Mortimer]

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.
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I can't believe you said that.

I was going to give you 10 pies,but you know what's next.












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[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.

I was talking pick and roll...spotting up for a 15-20 footer.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Hes hands down the worst coach in the league.

Leaves no time on the clock to foul or get the ball back if they miss. They run down the last 14 seconds with Lebron at the top of the key taking a shot into a triple team. They did a hell of a job drawing that one up, that used to be my favorite shot on the playground.

They could have hired Van Gundy but I dont think they thought he would "jive" with the young, hip, Lebron. Instead they hire Brown who is a complete buffoon. Really miss Lenny Wilkins

Mike Brown coaching record
Regular season 100-64
Playoffs 15-11

The last 24 years Lenny Wilkins coached, his teams made the NBA finals exactly zero times. His lifetime playoff record is 80-98. His record as in the playoffs as a Cavs coach was 18-23. I may not be the expert in Cleveland sports lore that Morty is but I would say that Lenny was dealt a much better hand with Price, Dougherty, Nance, Ron Harper, Elho, and Hot Rod Williams than Brown's current roster.

And Van Gundy did a bang up job with the Rockets in the Playoffs.

Plus you lose many points by not admitting that Isiah is by far the worst coach in the league not named Doc Rivers. Unless you like a lot of other people dont consider the Knicks and Celts part of the NBA any more.

I'm sure you guys will disagree but I think that Brown has outcoached Flipper this series and is unlucky to not be up 2-0.

I really love the theory that if you shoot quick you have a better chance to win. If you are down one and make you give the other team another chance to win. If you are down one and miss and foul you are most likely needing a 3 to tie. I would love to see the probability on teams under 10 seconds in the playoffs, down three points that win or tie. maybe 3%?
They were playing to win the game. If either shot goes in they win. If they dont then they lose. Pretty simple. I'm pretty sure any playoff underdog on the road would love to be in the situation of controlling their own destiny with one last play.