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Old 06-05-2007, 11:19 AM
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Per Bloodhorse, Todd is trying to get Gomez back aboard Rags, but Larry jones firmly expects him to honor his commitment to Hard Spun.

Interesting to see what develops.
Maybe Gomez jumps ship, and Larry Jones brings P-Val on for Hard Spun.


Yes, I'm joking.

He can't get off unless Jones lets him. Looks like " the man who runs racing " aint gonna be running this one.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:23 AM
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But they met on a few occasions, right? I say stretch battles, I guess I meant match-ups. But yea, I do remember the one battle.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:24 AM
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There was really only one....but it was something special.
"the mother of all goose's" gotta love that name...
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:30 AM
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But they met on a few occasions, right? I say stretch battles, I guess I meant match-ups. But yea, I do remember the one battle.

I'm not sure they met more than twice and Lite Light dusted her in the CCA Oaks. Truth be told, Lite Light was much the best in the Mother Goose.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:30 AM
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"the mother of all goose's" gotta love that name...
I think Durkin may have said that initially.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:32 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:34 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.

Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:36 AM
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I think Durkin may have said that initially.
I think he said it as part of the race call didn't he? and then it stuck.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:37 AM
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I think he said it as part of the race call didn't he? and then it stuck.
Feels like it.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:37 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.
Greg Fox came to his senses.

Must've been watching some Belmont replays.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:37 AM
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Let's see now. Pletcher sporting an ofer in triple crown races. Is there just a hint of desperation in this move?
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:39 AM
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Greg Fox came to his senses.

Must've been watching some Belmont replays.

It's honestly amazing how poorly Johnny has ridden lately. It's like he doesn't care anymore. He was never as great a rider as some made him out to be, but he was pretty damn good, and lately he looks like the second coming of Mike Smith. It seems like if he isn't riding a cadillac for Pletcher he just " goes where they aint. "
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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Let's see now. Pletcher sporting an ofer in triple crown races. Is there just a hint of desperation in this move?
I don't think so at all. He's running a horse who is one of the choices. Doesn't seem desperate to me. Running Circular Quay could have been construed as desperate perhaps.

To me it improves two races from a wagering standpoint.....it makes this Belmont more interesting and it removes a 2:5 shot from the Mother Goose.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:43 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure that Todd didn't think she was the most talented before the Derby. He's a pretty smart guy and has a very good handle on the relative talents of his horses.
I think he showed everyone the evidence when Circular worked with Rags and looked like he was going to get bitchslapped.

The move to put a filly in will arouse a lot of 'casual fan' awareness and interest IMO.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:46 AM
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It's honestly amazing how poorly Johnny has ridden lately. It's like he doesn't care anymore. He was never as great a rider as some made him out to be, but he was pretty damn good, and lately he looks like the second coming of Mike Smith. It seems like if he isn't riding a cadillac for Pletcher he just " goes where they aint. "
That's exactly what it looks like. He's sleepwalking through the races.

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A complete guess on my part, but I would say he's got something wrong in his personal life or he has something physically dogging him. Either way, if he needs to step away to get his life in order, I suggest he do it soon.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:47 AM
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I think you will find around here, this is not true. Early on, nobody even thought she belonged with the boys, and only raced against weak fields. With only 3 races prior to the big events, who could blame them.
I believe the horse that finished third in the Derby and won the Preakness went into the Derby with only three prior races, all against weak fields. If u are good, u are good. Her ability is not determined by who she races against; only her results are.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:13 PM
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Apparently CP is now running as well.


http://www.drf.com/news/article/85529.html
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:18 PM
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Apparently CP is now running as well.


http://www.drf.com/news/article/85529.html
The more the merrier. Spread that money around a bit.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:19 PM
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Apparently CP is now running as well.


http://www.drf.com/news/article/85529.html
That can't be a good move. I don't think he really wants a mile and a half and Zito looked to have him positioned nicely for a money-making summer campaign.

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Old 06-05-2007, 12:21 PM
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I would have chosen Prado over JV.
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