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Old 06-13-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Greta K. to get 10 years

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Two Former Riders Plead Guilty to Drug Charges in Kentucky
by The Associated Press
Date Posted: 6/13/2007 7:46:37 AM
Last Updated: 6/13/2007 7:46:37 AM

Two former jockeys pleaded guilty to drug charges on Tuesday, months after police found drug paraphernalia in their home and bags of methamphetamine in one of the jockey's vehicles.

Bryan Beccia, the exercise rider for 2001 Kentucky Derby (gr. I) winner Monarchos, pleaded guilty to possession, trafficking and making methamphetamine in Jefferson Circuit Court. The 42-year-old Beccia agreed to a 25-year prison sentence. He will remain on home incarceration until his sentencing on Aug. 3.

Greta Kuntzweiler, 31, who became just the second female jockey to ride in the Kentucky Oaks (gr. I) when she rode Rugula in the race two years ago, pleaded guilty to making and trafficking methamphetamine. She accepted a 10-year sentence.

Police found several bags of methamphetamine during a search of Beccia's vehicle last November. A search of the home the two shared in eastern Jefferson County revealed equipment to make the drug.

Kuntzweiler won 425 races during her career, including the $750,000 Hawthorne Gold Cup aboard Freeforinternet in 2004. She hasn't raced at all this year.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:36 PM
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I'm sure society is well served with those two prison sentences ( 25 years and 10 years ) while undoubtably violent criminals are going free after lesser sentences.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:50 PM
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She'll serve 2.5 to 4 years depending on how good she is in prison.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:53 PM
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She didn't just use it, she made it and passed it on. They're doing major crackdowns whenever they find labs. This isn't a first time drug user sentencing that you're gonna get. This is a hardcore sentence for a hardcore drug. They can't just put her or the other jockey into rehab and dismiss/diminish charges. When police and firefighters go into homes where meth was produced they basically have to do the whole hazmat thing. One guy got half his lungs scalded because he didn't realize the risks (should have since he had to wear a mask but whatever), took off his breathing apparatus for a minute, and suffered the consequences. Another woman making meth was boiling kerosene (they do all sorts of crazy things trying to make it), set her trailer on fire by doing that, and ran out to get away from the blaze--trouble is she forgot she had left her children inside, she was so messed up.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:46 PM
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I'm sure society is well served with those two prison sentences ( 25 years and 10 years ) while undoubtably violent criminals are going free after lesser sentences.
I generally agree. This reminds me of the days when there were stills making alcohol during prohibition. Not that I was around then.
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Old 06-13-2007, 03:51 PM
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And these 2 scumbags get a whole 6 months for raping a fellow cllege student.Amazing.



ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Two former Albany football players pleaded guilty
Wednesday to raping a female student in a campus dorm room last fall.

Lorenzo Ashbourne of Smyrna, Ga., and Julius Harris of Riviera Beach, Fla., each pleaded guilty to a felony count of rape. They are scheduled to be sentenced in August to six months in the Albany County jail, 10 years probation and will be required to register as sex offenders.
Prosecutors said the two freshmen football players raped an intoxicated classmate in their room on the Albany campus in October. Both men were expelled from the university.

A rape charge against a third former Albany player, Charles Guadagno of Fallston, Md., is still pending.
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Old 06-13-2007, 03:55 PM
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I'm sure society is well served with those two prison sentences ( 25 years and 10 years ) while undoubtably violent criminals are going free after lesser sentences.
I do believe she was on probation for the same offense when she got busted again , Im pretty sure the judge had just about enough of her crap and threw the book at her , as well he or she should have.
Sure people make mistakes but when you are given a pass for the first time the next time your gonna have to pay.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:02 PM
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I generally agree. This reminds me of the days when there were stills making alcohol during prohibition. Not that I was around then.
Met is an incredibly dangerous and addictive drug, a huge problem in KY, dangerous to those that use it, make it, the neighborhoods the labs are in, the police/fire that bust the labs, the debris left over from the labs and dumped locally.

Sad about both of them to get involved in that - once into met, you can't get out.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:13 PM
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Pretty sad Mark.

Youd think rape/child molestation would carry a heavier sentence than a few skunks selling and smoking some meth. I think the sentence is excessive. No need to put drug abusers in jail, they should be forced into a rehabilitation unless they have other violent offenses.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:51 PM
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I think 10 years is a mandatory minimum in KY for manufacture of meth.
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Old 06-13-2007, 05:10 PM
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Second offense while on probation, caught manufacturing & distributing--seems like a fair sentence.

Maybe she'll get to particpate in one of the prison programs that work with inmates on retraining ex-racehorses. Shake You Down is enjoying prison life and benefiting from just such a program in FL.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:55 PM
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I don't know, I am kinda on the fence on this one, the making and selling is pretty bad. Who knows how many young, niave girls (and guys for that matter) they could have convinced to try this stuff. There are many at the track that just don't have the experience or street smarts when they first start out, and I am sure they would have been easy targets. I believe they both are repeat offenders, if I am mistaken please correct me, but am pretty sure this isn't the first brush with the law for them.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:07 PM
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Any predator should receive the harshest penalty....selling drugs,raping.molestations,spousal abuse....and a host of other crimes.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:09 PM
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Any predator should receive the harshest penalty....selling drugs,raping.molestations,spousal abuse....and a host of other crimes.

As long as you also include bookmaking.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:11 PM
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Screw 'em.

It's not their first offense and they were selling it. I wouldn't care if they smoked, snorted or injected their own eyeballs with it if that's all they did. But it's very cheap and a huge problem drug with kids.

There are better ways to make money.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:16 PM
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As long as you also include bookmaking.
Interesting thought,BTW! Back in the day I had one of those people, though I never had to worry about being a victim of a beating or the 'vig'. But that type of business is real enough.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:18 PM
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Interesting thought,BTW! Back in the day I had one of those people, though I never had to worry about being a victim of a beating or the 'vig'. But that type of business is real enough.

No, you are missing the point. They are no less predators that prey on people's weaknesses than drug dealers.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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No, you are missing the point. They are no less predators that prey on people's weaknesses than drug dealers.
It might be a "coastal" thing,but the 3 different "books' I used were pretty laid back....no bats or broken bones.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:33 PM
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The company I work for hired this lady who was 33 and missing most of her teeth, the ones she had were rotted. We were all suspicious. She always acted crazy, like constanly bouncing around, shaking etc etc.....

She worked a couple days, got a paycheck, and then called off a couple days. She did show back up for work, and they suspected something.

She tested positive for meth. I guess that stuff rots your teeth like no tomorrow. This drug is scary on all fronts, the manufactuing of it is DANGEROUS. 2 more people who don't belong in society off the streets.
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It might be a "coastal" thing,but the 3 different "books' I used were pretty laid back....no bats or broken bones.
A co worker of mine was almost "de-legged" from a book last year, and this was over some Mickey Mouse $hit. (a few hundred)...We break his balls and recite the Eugene Ponticorvo scene when he walked into that joint and blasted that fat mess watching his ballgame while eating..I can't stand lame bettors who welch on thier bets...People that do things like that will be caught up to by the karma police sooner or later...
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