Rags To Riches pulled up

ELA · #1 07-22-2007, 12:55 PM

this morning during her work.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/86919.html

Anyone see her on the track?

Eric

declansharbor · #2 07-22-2007, 12:57 PM

Man o man.

Danzig · #3 07-22-2007, 01:26 PM

guess they'll know more after the vet checks her, but so far she seems ok...maybe not quite back to 100% after her fever.

10 pnt move up · #4 07-22-2007, 01:32 PM

I got a good price she would never start again after the belmont, its looking better and better. No one is surprised are they?

ALostTexan · #5 07-22-2007, 01:39 PM

I never thought we would see her race again. Way the hell too much money at stake to have her loose or injured...

letswastemoney · #6 07-22-2007, 01:40 PM

does anyone think lauren robson is kind of hot.....

declansharbor · #7 07-22-2007, 01:50 PM

Its not about the money with her owners. They already have money trees in both front and back yards to shake. They'll do whats best for her, which might not be what people necessarily want.

Danzig · #8 07-22-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't completely agree. It's usually always about money. Earlier this year, when they realized George Washington wasn't covering mares, they retired a newly turned perfectly healthy 3 year old, who was a champ at 2, to fill his stud duties.

partly money, partly a lot of owners of mares who suddenly were scrambling for a breeding with a danehill colt.

this from the bloodhorse mag after the belmont:

"We are at the stage in our lives where we like to enjoy our horses, and I certainly wouldn't want to retire any of them to be become stallions or broodmares at age 3. Now sometimes, because they are high-strung animals, you don't have any option. But in a perfect world, we would keep them all running through age 4."--micheal tabor

#9 07-22-2007, 02:45 PM

In the year 2000...

"Maiden Special Weight placed horses will be sold to Coolmore or the sheikhs for millions of dollars."

Danzig · #10 07-22-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How does that saying go? Talk is cheap.

true.

we just have to hope they weren't blowing smoke. i'd imagine they are planning to keep her and add her to their broodmare barn, so it's not as tho her value is a worry, other than to themselves. i don't know that she could harm that to be honest, she has shown herself to be pretty special.

as for future, pletcher said she came back ok, they jogged her and she looked fine. maybe a bit of over-zealousness on the part of the rider.

King Glorious · #11 07-22-2007, 03:20 PM

This is good stuff. The Belmont Stakes. People never learn. And of course, it's not about the money right? Because these people have plenty of money. Please. It's ALWAYS about the money and the breeding. Why do u think Coolmore retired a perfectly healthy horse to take the place of an unsuccessful George Washington? The writing has been on the wall with this one for a while. After the Belmont, instead of saying they were shooting for even bigger goals, they talked about scaling her back to facing third rate fillies. Then the fever. Then when asked if anything was wrong with her, Pletcher responded with "not yet". Stevie Wonder could see what's going on here. Now this. And we get the infamous "we looked her over and don't see anything wrong". How many times have we read that over the past couple of years before the horse gets a nuclear scan and a very slight infirmity is found and the horse is retired? Nevermind the fact that 99% of horses would show some types of infirmities if they were put under the nuclear scan. If u look hard enough, u can find a reason to retire every horse in training. They will find one for Rags although in reality, they already have one........her value.

Left Bank · #12 07-22-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

does anyone think lauren robson is kind of hot.....

I'd hit it!!!

PPerfectfan · #13 07-22-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't completely agree. It's usually always about money. Earlier this year, when they realized George Washington wasn't covering mares, they retired a newly turned perfectly healthy 3 year old, who was a champ at 2, to fill his stud duties.

Thank you!!! So this whole "oh they are in it for the sport of it", doesnt fly with me. To retire that colt for no other reason but money shows where there intrest is. I dont think we will see her run agian. And if we do it will be some cream puff field so she can get another race into her for show then breed her.

Bigsmc · #14 07-22-2007, 07:22 PM

We are talking colts and fillies here. A 3yr old colt retired to stud can produce how much income? A ton.

A filly retired to the shed can produce one offspring a year.

Apples and oranges people.

Bigsmc · #15 07-22-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

I understand the difference between the colt and the filly. Let's say she produces a Triple Crown winner. Now who is more valuable: that offspring, or Bernardini?

Can't answer that question because we don't know how either is going to produce.

Just because a horse wins a triple crown (or has tremendous success on the track) doesn't ensure success over the long run in the shed. Storm Cat, Mr. P or Affirmed, Secretariat?

Her value would be to sell her babies at auction. Why would the owners care about that with the money they have? They are going to breed her and race her babies. If she happens to produce a triple crown winner, they will retire him to stud for an outrageous fee, but if his first couple crops don't produce, that will be the end of the money printing.

It's all speculative, but I will stand by my statement that it is apples and oranges.