The Curragh on Sunday

my miss storm cat · #1 08-12-2007, 12:09 AM

Some nice fields tomorrow....

Good luck to Warsaw, Alexander Tango, Eagle Mountain, Henry, Benbaun and Al Qasi.

(..... and, of course, to Mr. Fallon).

edit - Insane odds on Warsaw. Hmmm.....I think he wins here (but have been dead wrong all day, thank you very much).

Curragh - Sunday 12 August
Going: N/A

14:45
5 Run United Arab Emirates Royal Whip Stakes (group 2)
Class 1, £125000.00 added, 3yo plus, £77500.00 penalty 1m 2f

Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(1) 823711 Championship Point (IRE) M R Channon 4 9 9 T P O'Shea
2(2) 432-332 Cougar Bay (IRE) D Wachman 4 9 9 J A Heffernan
3(4) 39-3316 Decado (IRE) K Prendergast 4 9 9 D P McDonogh
4(5) 4-523U2 Eagle Mountain A P O'Brien 3 9 3 K Fallon
5(3) 7-24141 Alexander Tango (IRE) T Stack 3 8 11 W M Lordan

Betting Forecast: 6/4 Eagle Mountain, 5/2 Championship Point (IRE), 7/2 Decado (IRE), 4/1 Alexander Tango (IRE), 8/1 Cougar Bay (IRE)

15:45
7 Run Independent Waterfood Wedgwood Phoenix Stakes (group 1)
Class 1, £300001.00 added, 2yo only, £177600.00 penalty 6f

Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(3) 61 Captain Royale (IRE) J Noseda 2 9 1 M J Kinane
2(7) 11 Henrythenavigator (USA) A P O'Brien 2 9 1 K Fallon
3(5) 12924 South Dakota (IRE) A P O'Brien 2 9 1 C O'Donoghue
4(2) 110 Warsaw (IRE) A P O'Brien 2 9 1 J A Heffernan
5(6) 3113 Elletelle (IRE) G M Lyons 2 8 12 J P Murtagh
6(1) 31253 Saoirse Abu (USA) J S Bolger 2 8 12 K J Manning
7(4) 1253 The Loan Express (IRE) T Stack 2 8 12 W M Lordan

Betting Forecast: 4/7 Henrythenavigator (USA), 7/2 Elletelle (IRE), 10/1 The Loan Express (IRE), 12/1 Captain Royale (IRE), 16/1 Warsaw (IRE), 20/1 South Dakota (IRE), 50/1 Saoirse Abu (USA)

16:15
9 Run Patrick P.o'leary Memorial Phoenix Sprint Stakes (group 3)
Class 1, £75001.00 added, 3yo plus, £48750.00 penalty 6f

Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(7) 2153-10 Benbaun (IRE) M Wallace 6 9 10 E Ahern
2(5) 3232-50 Advanced K A Ryan 4 9 5 N Callan
3(3) 211-602 Al Qasi (IRE) P W Chapple-Hyam 4 9 5 K McEvoy
4(4) 251040 Assertive R Hannon 4 9 5 K J Manning
5(9) 370327 Fonthill Road (IRE) R A Fahey 7 9 5 P Hanagan
6(2) 1129-46 Osterhase (IRE) J E Mulhern 8 9 5 F M Berry
7(6) 121439 Grecian Dancer C O'Brien 4 9 2 J P Murtagh
8(1) 251151 Aahayson K R Burke 3 9 1 P Cosgrave
9(8) 11-31 Evening Time (IRE) K Prendergast 3 8 12 D P McDonogh

Betting Forecast: 5/2 Evening Time (IRE), 3/1 Benbaun (IRE), 5/1 Al Qasi (IRE), 7/1 Advanced, 8/1 Assertive, 10/1 Osterhase (IRE), 12/1 Fonthill Road (IRE), Aahayson, 14/1 Grecian Dancer

_ed_ · #2 08-12-2007, 12:49 AM

Fantastic fields.

Probably a stupid question sorry, but what does the U in Eagle Mountain's formline mean? Never seen that before.

my miss storm cat · #3 08-12-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by _ed_

Fantastic fields.

Probably a stupid question sorry, but what does the U in Eagle Mountain's formline mean? Never seen that before.

I've never seen that either and I'm wondering if the u is for unseated rider since he parted ways with Fallon last time?

_ed_ · #4 08-12-2007, 02:07 AM

Yeah that must be it. Thanks!

NoChanceToDance · #5 08-12-2007, 04:41 AM

Yes, U means unseated rider. Don't you have that in Oz or in the US? What is written in the form if a horse loses his/her jockey mid race?

It will be interesting to see if Eagle Mountain can win today, he has been so disappointing really considering his potential. He should be the best horse by far, but i wouldn't like to bet him at 6/4.

Henrythenavigator looks home and hosed already and aslong as there isn't a downpour to make the conditions really testing, he should win but he will be odds on. Warsaw is probably only in there as a rabbit, could be wrong though. I know Captain Royale is really well thought of by Noseda, but i doubt if he can cope with Henry.

The sprint is very competitive. Evening Time may turn out to be the best of these in the longer term but i think it's about time Al Qasi got his career back on track and showed us that he is a top sprinter, so i'm hoping he can win today.

_ed_ · #6 08-12-2007, 04:57 AM

We have L here for lost rider.

Sightseek · #7 08-12-2007, 05:40 PM

Henry is upset by a mighty Mr. Greeley filly in the Phoenix Stakes!

NoChanceToDance · #8 08-12-2007, 05:45 PM

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Henry is upset by a mighty Mr. Greeley filly in the Phoenix Stakes!

Yeah, i saw the result, couldn't believe it. Anyone see the race to give me a visual.

Bolger said afterwards that she is a soft ground filly. A soft ground lover by Mr Greeley????? That was a surprise to me.

Well done to her, though. Must have been a great performance.

Sightseek · #9 08-12-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Yeah, i saw the result, couldn't believe it. Anyone see the race to give me a visual.

Bolger said afterwards that she is a soft ground filly. A soft ground lover by Mr Greeley????? That was a surprise to me.

Well done to her, though. Must have been a great performance.

The beauty of the Greeley is that they are of no particular type. Dirt, turf, short, long, firm and soft...there is a Greeley for every race.

my miss storm cat · #10 08-12-2007, 05:49 PM

Cheers to your girl and to Eagle Mountain (who won and kept his rider!), Alexander Tango who was 2nd and Al Qasi who won too.

NoChanceToDance · #11 08-12-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Cheers to your girl and to Eagle Mountain (who won and kept his rider!), Alexander Tango who was 2nd and Al Qasi who won too.

Great news about him, i didn't know.

any visuals?

I hope he can really get into top gear now, he is a top class sprinter but he hasn't really shown it this year until today hopefully.

Eagle Mountain got the job done (at last), but i thought Alexander Tango ran a huge race finish so close to him.

brockguy · #12 08-13-2007, 04:35 AM

very disappointed to see Henry lose yesterday.. the really good horses go on anything and I really dont like when they immediately say it was the ground.. nice win for Saoirse Abu (translated loosely to "Hooray Freedom") and proves that we've some strong 2yo fillies here in Ireland!!

NoChanceToDance · #13 08-13-2007, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

very disappointed to see Henry lose yesterday.. the really good horses go on anything and I really dont like when they immediately say it was the ground.. nice win for Saoirse Abu (translated loosely to "Hooray Freedom") and proves that we've some strong 2yo fillies here in Ireland!!

How soft was the ground there yesterday, i didn't see any racing so i have no idea. I agree though, really good horses should go on all types of ground. Maybe that saying is a bit outdated now, especially with the breed becoming weaker (so it seems).

I watched the replay late last night, and to be honest Henry had every chance and if i hadn't seen the result before i watched the replay i would have thought he was going to win. He took over the lead with about a furlong left and went about half a length up, but the filly (who hugged the rail) had too much for him in the closing stages.

It was disappointing though, to see a horse who had broken the track record over 6 furlongs at royal ascot. Maybe that was a one off. He made his debut over seven, and maybe now he needs a step up in trip. It's not an excuse, the filly was the best horse on the day and not just by a little bit either, she won going away in the end. It was a gutsy display from her as she looked beaten when Henry came past her, but she found an extra gear close home to win by a length.

These Mr Greeley horses are taking over the world!

brockguy · #14 08-13-2007, 04:54 AM

just back home now, so havent really had a look.. ive alot of racing to catch up on!!

NoChanceToDance · #15 08-13-2007, 05:01 AM

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just back home now, so havent really had a look.. ive alot of racing to catch up on!!

You certainly have. Although, to be honest you haven't missed a great deal really. The Derby looks worse now than it did before.

Peeping Fawn just keeps improving and if she carries on she will be the best horse England and Ireland have got this season...... which is slightly worrying.

The Authorized camp are more than likely to pull out of the Juddmonte (so it seems). I'm not sure we will see him on the track again.