Well.........KEV

[SCUDSBROTHER]

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We were both right.I'm right(he has hit for them,) but he did lose his f'n mind today.Can you believe 50 year old Bud Black can even hurt him.No matter what,this all took place for one reason.Milton does throw bats after he strikes out.He can blame all of it on the umps,but fact is the umps don't like this guy throwing bats and showing them up(or just being an ass..in general.)Did he throw a bat at the ump? No,but the guy does throw bats too close to people,and today it caught up with him.

[timmgirvan]

Boy...those anger management classes went well, didn't they?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

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We were both right.I'm right(he has hit for them,) but he did lose his f'n mind today.Can you believe 50 year old Bud Black can even hurt him.No matter what,this all took place for one reason.Milton does throw bats after he strikes out.He can blame all of it on the umps,but fact is the umps don't like this guy throwing bats and showing them up(or just being an ass..in general.)Did he throw a bat at the ump? No,but the guy does throw bats too close to people,and today it caught up with him.

Stephen...hes a cancer...plain and simple. One of these days hes really gonna lose it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by GPK

Stephen...hes a cancer...plain and simple. One of these days hes really gonna lose it.

I actually can't say I see him as a cancer.Until this weekend,he had been helping this team,and I thought they were the most mentally tough team that was up for the wildcard.Remember now,he and Frank Thomas were the offensive engine that got the A's TO THE A.L.C.S. last year.Then,he was about the only Oakland player that didn't choke in that series.Until that series came about,that was the best chemistry I've seen a team have in a long time.So,he isn't a cancer on a team.Far from it.He has improved a lot at the plate too.He was power,or nothing for the Dodgers.He hasn't had an incident like this in a while,BUT he does still do a lot of little things when he gets angry(I have seen him throwing bats a lot.)He needed to work on this,because it was only a matter of time until somebody got pissed off about that.The 2nd thing that went wrong was he affirmed a statement made by a fan about an umpire.You just can't do that.The umpire probably said some stuff he wouldn't of otherwise said.So,there were 2 things Milton did that caused this,and for him to say he did nothing wrong is absurd.I think with other people it's the blowing up part that is most controllable.With Milton,I think it can really only be controlled by getting rid of the precursor stuff(cuz once that top comes off,he is gone...nutso completo.)One thing I know though is that pro sports is about 1 thing...Winning.This guy can hit.I'll take him on my team.I sure will take him in the 2nd half...duh...I really don't think he is gunna do anything on the field to seriously hurt anybody.Himself? Obviously,but remember that he didn't take a shot at Bud Black.I guarantee you if he was really as dangerous as people think,then he would have done whatever it took to get Bud Black off him(including hitting him.)I think he has obvious anger problems,and that's ugly.I just don't think he is dangerous.Without all those teammates to tackle him? Maybe...I think he is more of a mental case than a thug.This guy is an emotional guy.It's a problem.I have a lot more problem with guys like VICK(who really quite often don't feel much of anything....not really.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Remember,that ,if San Diego makes it to the post,then that will be 3 out of 4 years that the teams he has been on have made it to the post.If you really want to know who is a bit of a cancer,take a look at Jeff Kent.He gets o.k. stats(when the game isn't on the line etc.,) but believe me he is not good for chemistry.Sure,if he was on the 77/78 YANKS,OR THE '74 etc. Oakland A'S,then maybe they would still win,but it would be despite him(and his motorcycle-cop simple mind.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Remember,that ,if San Diego makes it to the post,then that will be 3 out of 4 years that the teams he has been on have made it to the post.If you really want to know who is a bit of a cancer,take a look at Jeff Kent.He gets o.k. stats(when the game isn't on the line etc.,) but believe me he is not good for chemistry.Sure,if he was on the 77/78 YANKS,OR THE '74 etc. Oakland A'S,then maybe they would still win,but it would be despite him(and his motorcycle-cop simple mind.)

Another big start for Mr. Lackey...

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_...793&statType=2

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Another big start for Mr. Lackey...

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_...793&statType=2

Yeah,just like last years final week n' a half.He is pretty good in GARBAGE TIME.Not nearly as good in August,and the 1st part of September(when they needed it last year,and same this year.) Either he doesn't like the heat and/ or the pressure of the race in August.Actually I think it's the heat.He was great the 1st game after the break last year(it was Tampa..of course,)
but the following Wednesday he got destroyed(didn't last long at all) on a hot day game in Anaheim.Did so-so the rest of July,but he was torn apart in August,and destroyed in 1st inning against Texas (with 2 weeks to go in season.) They had to have that game against Texas.They had to keep the deficit behind the A's at the same #,or there simply wasn't gunna be any reality of a race existing.Hot day in Dallas,and they ripped him up.He padded his #s the last 2 starts (after the Texas mess.)He is pretty good when the race is decided.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yeah,just like last years final week n' a half.He is pretty good in GARBAGE TIME.Not nearly as good in August,and the 1st part be any reality of a race existing.

We are talking about John Lackey not Juan Pierre

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I put money down relying on him in the 2nd half last year.He wasn't there for me when I was watching the A's win damn near every game in August.They were tied going into August,but he was crap in August.He should have lost a game against Seattle too...They ran him out of there in like the 4th or 5th inning.I got the memories.I know exactly what happened,and he did it in August this year,but not nearly as awful as last year(when the A's were pressuring him to win.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I put money down relying on him in the 2nd half last year.He wasn't there for me when I was watching the A's win damn near every game in August.They were tied going into August,but he was crap in August.He should have lost a game against Seattle too...They ran him out of there in like the 4th or 5th inning.I got the memories.I know exactly what happened,and he did it in August this year,but not nearly as awful as last year(when the A's were pressuring him to win.)

He is not hurt anymore

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

We are talking about John Lackey not Juan Pierre

YEAH...where the f was LACKEY IN AUGUST LAST YEAR?? Giving it up.That's where he was. The ace wasn't there,and because of that ,they came into September behind by quite a bit. Bad start against Seattle.Bad start against Texas. They needed those games badly.He wasn't getting it done when they had to have it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

He came into August last year at 10-6.On September 16 he couldn't get an out against Texas,and fell to 11-11.Sorry,but I ain't ever gunna forget this guy laying down under the pressure of his team needing to win to stay close to the A's.He failed under that pressure.

"Angels starter John Lackey (11-11) lasted only four innings, allowing six runs and 10 hits."

"It just got kind of rolling downhill and I couldn't stop it," Lackey said.

The Rangers jumped on Lackey for a four-run first before he was able to register an out.-9-16-06

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260916113

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

YEAH...where the f was LACKEY IN AUGUST LAST YEAR?? Giving it up.That's where he was. The ace wasn't there,and because of that ,they came into September behind by quite a bit. Bad start against Seattle.Bad start against Texas. They needed those games badly.He wasn't getting it done when they had to have it.

He was hurting. He is healthy now. Deal with it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He was hurting. He is healthy now. Deal with it.

It's bullshit.September 16th-2006.....He got shelled.This is after Oakland beat the Chisox earlier in the day.The Halos needed that game,or else they were in trouble.He failed,but 7 days later he was just fine against Oakland.Gave up one hit.This was to deny Oakland from clinching.Big difference in pressure.They had to have the game on the 16th.He failed miserably.One week later (the race is over) he has no pressure on him to win.The A'S CAN WIN THE DIVISION WITH JUST ONE MORE WIN.He gives up just 1 f'n hit....o.k.? If he was so sick and hurting on 9/16/06,then why is he giving up just 1 hit a week later? Hurting? Bullshit..He had no pressure on 9/23/06,and decided to deny the A's the inevitable(on his watch.)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260923111

[SCUDSBROTHER]

When the HALOS had to have this guy win games(in August and early -mid september 2006) to deal with a hot A'S team,he wore skirt.As soon as the race was decided,he found his game,and gave up just 1 hit.He was hurting? bullshit..he was under pressure to win.Oakland put him under pressure each start,and he gave it up.

[Cannon Shell]

John Lackey in the postseason ( a little pressure...)

2-1 3.26 era (not too bad for 8 games)
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_...793&statType=2

[Mortimer]

God I love baseball!!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

John Lackey in the postseason ( a little pressure...)

2-1 3.26 era (not too bad for 8 games)
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_...793&statType=2

8 games...3 decisions...Yes,that's the guy."Not too bad" ....correct,he is not too bad.All I am saying is I can't rely on the guy in August/1st half of September.Was horrible last year during that stretch(when pressured by a streaking A's club,) and it was the worst part of his season this year,too(even though his team was leading all the way,and was not really pressured .)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Actually,I see the guy I am talking about....look at the 2005 post season.That's the guy I see in August/1st part of September.He does exist.The guy you're talking about pitched good in the 2002 post season.Be nice to see that guy show up in this year's post.Again,I would not count on it........Big Maybe..I am pretty sure that this is the guy who pitched poorly in the 1st few innings in the Friday night ALCS game against the Chisox.Remember that? They just got ripped off by the cheating catcher of the Chisox..They needed Lackey to pick them up.I remember it now....That's your clutch guy? Wasn't clutch in that one,and wasn't clutch in 2006 race for the division. 8 earned runs in 16 innings....10 walks...I know that one.Seen too much of that version of him.

[Crown@club]

MLB suspended umpire Mike Winters for the rest of the season for his conduct during Sunday's game against the Padres.

No suspension at all for Bradley, though one could say he already received his punishment. For MLB to come down like this, Winters must have said some pretty nasty things. We hope that if the remarks were truly racist, Bud Selig and company would be sure to get rid of him in the offseason.