Jockeys Crying Again...this time about BC tickets

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

some of you seem to think that whole 10% of the purses share the owner gets is theirs, do you have any idea how much of their actual earnings go to their agents? plus they have to pay for pants(yes they have many more than 1 pair), boots, whips, tipping valets etc etc. jockeys crying again?


well if it were up to some people like the "mighty" d'wayne luk a$ s jockeys would go and ride for free and have to continue to reduce and lose weight until they die. they gotta a easy life right? all they do is get on a horse for 1-2 minutes every race and thats it huh? well thats not it and they dont make as much as you think, as publicized on hbo jockey some cant even afford to make enough to buy their own insurance which is outrageous to insure someone who does what they do.


i dont think its just the jocks that get screwed the horseman in general constantly get it in the rear from the racetrack

They really pay for their own whips??? Must not be that expensive if some jockeys keep throwing them to kids in the crowd before going in the winners circle.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

They really pay for their own whips??? Must not be that expensive if some jockeys keep throwing them to kids in the crowd before going in the winners circle.

Those aren't kids...that is the underprivledged jockey section. The winning jockey is just donating the whip to one of his hard luck peers.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by saratoga guy

Some harsh assessments of jockeys early in this thread ("crying", "whining"...) that don't seem to be fairly based on what was written.

The article quotes only one jockey. He says, "As with any sporting venue, whether football or baseball, accommodations should be made for participants who make the event possible – whether owners, trainers, or jockeys."

Seems reasonable to me.

Oh, and he then adds, "Those are all miniscule things to me. I’m happy to have the opportunity, and if it’s going to cost me to ride a morning-line second choice starter in the Breeders’ Cup, I’m gonna pay it."

I would hardly qualify that as whiny or crying...

Excellent points. However, are you sure you want to confuse rantings and ravings with your logic and facts. LOL.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If the jockey's are honestly being asked to pay for parking, and frankly their families should park for free as well, then they do have a very legitimate gripe. Let's be serious here. However, they only have themselves to blame for continually choosing leadership that fails to capably represent them. But, this is ridiculous and nobody can seriously suggest they should pay for parking and it seems more than fair that they be given a minimum of two free seats.

Andy, this is the real issue -- should the jocks have to pay for tickets? Should they have to pay for tickets for their wives and children? That's all. Reacting to their reaction is deflection and noise, that's all. As far as blame, big picture, that's a seperate issue. In this case, this would have happened regardless of who was leading the Guild.

Eric

[10 pnt move up]

From what I understand they cant even sell the place out, seems a little weak to me that they are not getting complimentary tickets in that case based on what they have done the prior 23 years.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

From what I understand they cant even sell the place out, seems a little weak to me that they are not getting complimentary tickets in that case based on what they have done the prior 23 years.

That is another thread in itself. The BC has completely lost it with the ticket pricing and the public is answering loud and clear. Whomever thought that people would spend $200+ per seat to allow them to sit out in the elements (in late Oct. on the Jersey shore) on the apron should be fired. It is way too easy in this day and age to stay home, snuggle up to your favorite ADW and avoid the on track mess of parking, wagering lines and overpriced concessions.

I have no clue as to how the money (tickets, concessions and wagering) is split up amongst the entities involved, but one would think it would be smarter to have reasonable ticket prices in order to sell the place out and get the money through the windows.

[letswastemoney]

When I went to the Breeder's Cup in 2003 at Santa Anita, I just walked in. I didn't pre order any tickets like you guys.....I'm confused as to all these expensive ticket prices.

It was the only Breeder's Cup I've been to and I don't remember what I payed to get in...but it couldn't have been that much.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

When I went to the Breeder's Cup in 2003 at Santa Anita, I just walked in. I didn't pre order any tickets like you guys.....I'm confused as to all these expensive ticket prices.

It was the only Breeder's Cup I've been to and I don't remember what I payed to get in...but it couldn't have been that much.

Five years is a long time. I haven't looked back through my stuff to see how much tickets used to be, but I regularly used to buy 4 seats even though it was only my brother and I going (elbow room, esp. on those CD bleachers) and if they were anywhere near what they are now, I would've only bought two.

I think a lot has to do with the size of venue. The bigger places usually have cheaper pricing because they have more tickets to sell. Monmouth being smaller has a limited number of seats for the event and a limited number of GA tickets. That said, someone overestimated how many people were willing to leave their home (as well as their computer and HD TV) to pay these prices. Otherwise, there wouldn't be tickets still available and others being sold for under face value. The track is less than 2 hours (some of you locals can help me with that) from the most populated city in the US for crying out loud.

You want a packed house. It looks good on TV (for the sport of horse racing in general) and it's good for the on track handle.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

That is another thread in itself. The BC has completely lost it with the ticket pricing and the public is answering loud and clear. Whomever thought that people would spend $200+ per seat to allow them to sit out in the elements (in late Oct. on the Jersey shore) on the apron should be fired. It is way too easy in this day and age to stay home, snuggle up to your favorite ADW and avoid the on track mess of parking, wagering lines and overpriced concessions.

I have no clue as to how the money (tickets, concessions and wagering) is split up amongst the entities involved, but one would think it would be smarter to have reasonable ticket prices in order to sell the place out and get the money through the windows.

For what it's worth..Looking at my old BC Tix..

'92 Gulfstream First Level Apron Box : $50.00
'99 Gulfstream: Grandstand :$95.00
'02 AP: Apron Box (equivelant to '92 GS) : $140.00
'03 SA: Res Grandstand ( equiv to '99 GS) $125.00
'04 LS: Upper Stretch Bleachers :$75.00
'06 CD Get me in the door tix $35.00

[viscount26]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

The track is less than 2 hours (some of you locals can help me with that) from the most populated city in the US for crying out loud.

You want a packed house. It looks good on TV (for the sport of horse racing in general) and it's good for the on track handle.

Mike,
It's around 1hour:40 mins from Penn Station in NY to Monmouth. Where I am I have to add another 40 mins, and anyone on the Island a little more

[deltagulf]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If the jockey's are honestly being asked to pay for parking, and frankly their families should park for free as well, then they do have a very legitimate gripe. Let's be serious here. However, they only have themselves to blame for continually choosing leadership that fails to capably represent them. But, this is ridiculous and nobody can seriously suggest they should pay for parking and it seems more than fair that they be given a minimum of two free seats.

agree 100 %. just like for super bowl players and family get free tickets.
so should jocks and family.

[freddymo]

A lot to do about nothing.. Tell me who is charging Prado for parking? Inane BS

[10 pnt move up]

Well I know they charge riders for extra tickets beyond the two comps, at santa anita the tickets I had got via a rider, granted good seats in some temporary tables at the finish line were $275.