4 horrendous Breeders Cup days in a row in the NY Metro area. Never do it again!

NoLuvForPletch · #1 10-25-2007, 09:27 AM

And I live here and love going, but this is absurd! '95 was the worst as it poured the entire day. 2000 was not as wet but it was absolutely freezing. '05 I guess could be considered balmy by the standards set by two prior BC days at Belmont, but still not enjoyable in the slightest. And now here we are in 2007. Racing at the smallest track imaginable and you'll need to build an Arc by Saturday if the forecast holds true. Maybe the "Racing Form" can include a "K" for those horses that have ever rehabbed at KESMARC. I think they'll be at a distinct advantage. Let's hope and pray the geniuses that seem to never be right in forecasting the weather are wrong just one more time. Can anyone recommend a good raincoat as my seats are in the 800's both days?

blackthroatedwind · #2 10-25-2007, 09:35 AM

It is incredible that it has barely rained for over four months and suddenly a deluge hits exactly on BC weekend ( beautiful weather returns Sunday....just like 2005 ).

This BC will be the most irrelevent ever. And that's saying something.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #3 10-25-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

And I live here and love going, but this is absurd! '95 was the worst as it poured the entire day. 2000 was not as wet but it was absolutely freezing. '05 I guess could be considered balmy by the standards set by two prior BC days at Belmont, but still not enjoyable in the slightest. And now here we are in 2007. Racing at the smallest track imaginable and you'll need to build an Arc by Saturday if the forecast holds true. Maybe the "Racing Form" can include a "K" for those horses that have ever rehabbed at KESMARC. I think they'll be at a distinct advantage. Let's hope and pray the geniuses that seem to never be right in forecasting the weather are wrong just one more time. Can anyone recommend a good raincoat as my seats are in the 800's both days?

At Belmont (1990) Lower 50's and sunny, but the wind was brutal...didn't stop until the Turf race.
(1995) the rain stopped by the start of the races and it was somewhat mild, but since NBC carries NORTE DAME football, the card started at 11am and was done by 3:30...that suck!
(2001) nicer than 1990, but did spend most of the day inside close to the finish line.
(2005) much like 1990 with less sun

Since being there for all four Belmont events, having it at a track on the east coast in late October isn't very smart for the fans.

mik9872 · #4 10-25-2007, 09:42 AM

Personally I think the BC should be at Churchill every year. Although it can be affected by weather, it is best suited by track configuration, availablity of travel and facillities. Also if they do not fool with rhe track it is very fair.

freddymo · #5 10-25-2007, 09:46 AM

I am so bummed.. Not a drop of rain for months and now this BS forecast.. This BCup event is in ticket broker terms an ICE CUBE.. My buddy called me up and gave me 6 extra seats for Saturday on or near the finish line.. Nobody was spending to get there before the forecast, now with rain definately coming forgetabout it.

It's better then 50/50 that they will be forced to take the turf races off.. It's a fn mess

freddymo · #6 10-25-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mik9872

Personally I think the BC should be at Churchill every year. Although it can be affected by weather, it is best suited by track configuration, availablity of travel and facillities. Also if they do not fool with rhe track it is very fair.

It's just bad luck..Nothing wrong with Belmont..Monmouth was a bit of a stretch. Maybe a rotation of the following:

CD
Bel
SA (Cushion?)
Arlington(poly)

I do not see the need to have it anywhere else..

The poly/syn tracks are here to stay..They might as well start having the big day on them

philcski · #7 10-25-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It is incredible that it has barely rained for over four months and suddenly a deluge hits exactly on BC weekend ( beautiful weather returns Sunday....just like 2005 ).

This BC will be the most irrelevent ever. And that's saying something.

Agreed, it hasn't rained in 4 months and of course we get this. Rain is holding off right now at least.

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I am so bummed.. Not a drop of rain for months and now this BS forecast.. This BCup event is in ticket broker terms an ICE CUBE.. My buddy called me up and gave me 6 extra seats for Saturday on or near the finish line.. Nobody was spending to get there before the forecast, now with rain definately coming forgetabout it.

It's better then 50/50 that they will be forced to take the turf races off.. It's a fn mess

there's a 0% chance the turf races come off. ZERO.

ArlJim78 · #8 10-25-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's just bad luck..Nothing wrong with Belmont..Monmouth was a bit of a stretch. Maybe a rotation of the following:

CD
Bel
SA (Cushion?)
Arlington(poly)

I do not see the need to have it anywhere else..

The poly/syn tracks are here to stay..They might as well start having the big day on them

forget arlington, too small and weather issues as well.

NoLuvForPletch · #9 10-25-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's just bad luck..Nothing wrong with Belmont..Monmouth was a bit of a stretch. Maybe a rotation of the following:

CD
Bel
SA (Cushion?)
Arlington(poly)

I do not see the need to have it anywhere else..

The poly/syn tracks are here to stay..They might as well start having the big day on them

What's the matter with Gulfstream? And from what I remember Woodbine was nice.

philcski · #10 10-25-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's just bad luck..Nothing wrong with Belmont..Monmouth was a bit of a stretch. Maybe a rotation of the following:

CD
Bel
SA (Cushion?)
Arlington(poly)

I do not see the need to have it anywhere else..

The poly/syn tracks are here to stay..They might as well start having the big day on them

Weather problems aside, Monmouth is NOT a stretch. I think people will realize that when they wake up on Sunday.

Things could be worse... what if it were at SA this year?? Half of L.A. is on fire!

blackthroatedwind · #11 10-25-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's better then 50/50 that they will be forced to take the turf races off..

If 0% is now 50/50 then you are correct.

NoLuvForPletch · #12 10-25-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Weather problems aside, Monmouth is NOT a stretch. I think people will realize that when they wake up on Sunday.

Things could be worse... what if it were at SA this year?? Half of L.A. is on fire!

The only thing I am going to realize when I wake up on Sunday is what an idiot I was to stand in the rain for 2 days straight!

#13 10-25-2007, 10:12 AM

I heard that they're going to take the races off the turf and dirt and have a red carpet event where the horses can show off their new saddles.

Buffymommy · #14 10-25-2007, 10:14 AM

I still think that someone on here had the correct idea... (I think it was Steve).

Redo Hialeah track and have it do nothing but host the Breeder's Cup...

bogeydaman · #15 10-25-2007, 10:26 AM

If the goal is to reduce the percentage possibility of rain at the BC then I don't suggest bringing it to South Florida. We routinely get big days "blown up" due to weather conditions. Regardelss of the track of choice.

freddymo · #16 10-25-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If 0% is now 50/50 then you are correct.

So if it pours 3 plus inches with the thunder storms predicted for the next 72 hours they are going to run on the turf.. The jocks are going to go along with that? Granted its a new course and they added a bunch of drainage stuff , but its a lot of potential water for any course to take. The forecast is very poor.

ArlJim78 · #17 10-25-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

So if it pours 3 plus inches with the thunder storms predicted for the next 72 hours they are going to run on the turf.. The jocks are going to go along with that? Granted its a new course and they added a bunch of drainage stuff , but its a lot of potential water for any course to take. The forecast is very poor.

yes, still on the turf in those conditions.
the Breeders Cup Turf will not ever be run on dirt.

blackthroatedwind · #18 10-25-2007, 10:33 AM

They will cancel before they come off the turf.

Coming off the turf is simply not an option.

freddymo · #19 10-25-2007, 10:37 AM

I want to see them make the decision to run on a course that is completely unsafe for racing..Moreover I want counsel to tell them they aren't at huge risk. I am going to try and reach Zoffinger and see what his thoughts are.

look I hope the weather clears and its all BS.

freddymo · #20 10-25-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They will cancel before they come off the turf.

Coming off the turf is simply not an option.

I think that possiblity is 50/50 then