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Old 01-14-2008, 10:33 AM
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THE CITI STEWARDS' CUP
(HONG KONG GROUP 1 - HK$8,000,000)
1600 Metres- ShaTin-Sunday 20 January 2008

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ABLE ONE
ART TRADER
DOWN TOWN
FLORAL PEGASUS
GOOD BA BA
JOYFUL WINNER
POCKET MONEY
ROYAL PRINCE
SIR ERNESTO
THE WITCH'S BROOM
VENGEANCE OF RAIN
VIVA MACAU
VIVA PATACA
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:53 PM
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Rumor is VOR is out.....

I wouldn't post it, but it's from a very reliable person in HK.
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:27 PM
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Race 8 - THE CITI STEWARDS' CUP
Sunday, January 20, 2008, Sha Tin, 16:35
Turf ,"B+2" Course ,1600m

Prize Money: $8,000,000.00, Rating: -, Race Class: HONG KONG GROUP 1

1 VIVA PATACA 126 J Moore 129 D Beadman 8 G096 H 0 -
2 GOOD BA BA 126 A Schutz 127 O Doleuze 4 E201 TT 5 -
3 DOWN TOWN 126 C H Yip 123 D Whyte 7 G054 TT 2 -
4 FLORAL PEGASUS 126 A S Cruz 123 G Mosse 2 G011 TT 0 -
5 JOYFUL WINNER 126 J Moore 120 C Soumillon 9 E045 TT -1 -
6 ABLE ONE 126 J Moore 117 G Boss 1 G108 -2 -
7 SIR ERNESTO 126 D Cruz 116 A Delpech 5 G051 SR -2 -
8 VIVA MACAU 126 J Moore 116 Z Purton 3 H110 SW/TT 0 -
9 ART TRADER 126 J Moore 115 E Saint-Martin 10 E131 TT 0 -
10 ROYAL PRINCE 126 A S Cruz 113 B Prebble 6 H072 TT -1 -



B : Blinkers BO : Blinker with one cowl only E : Ear Plugs H : Hood
M : Muzzle P : Pacifier PC : Pacifier with cowls SR : Shadow Roll
SW : Side Winkers TT : Tongue Tie V : Visor SB: Sheepskin Browband
SO: Side Winker 1 side "1" : First time "2" : Replaced "-" : Removed
CC: Cornell Collar XB: Crossed Nose Band

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"Horse Wt. (Declaration)" : Horse weight on two days before the race day
"Wt.+/-(vs last race)" : Change of horse weight between race day and last race day
"Wt.+/-(vs Declarations)" : Change of horse weight between race day and declaration day
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:41 PM
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which ones are the titans?
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:27 PM
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which ones are the titans?
ALL of them!

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SCMP.....

Friday, January 18, 2008

Centenary Vase is Vengeance's race, insists Ferraris
Champ to give Stewards' Cup a miss

MURRAY BELL


Horse of the Year Vengeance Of Rain has gone missing from Sunday's HK$8 million Citi Stewards' Cup line-up but trainer David Ferraris says all is well with the greatest prize money winner in the history of racing.
Ferraris and Vengeance Of Rain's managing owner, Raymond Chow Hon-man, have come up with an alternative battle plan, and the great stayer will now have his next run in the Group Three Centenary Vase over 2,000 metres at Sha Tin on February 2.

"I can assure all Vengeance Of Rain's fans that there is nothing wrong with the horse, in fact he's jumping out of his skin he's that well," Ferraris emphasised last night.

"He really pleased us with a strong piece of work earlier in the week, but we have decided to go for the Centenary Vase rather than the Stewards' Cup because we believe it's a race he could win.

"He might be able to run a place, with a bit of luck, at a mile in the Stewards' Cup. But even with a big weight in the Centenary Vase, it's a race he can win."

Ferraris said the late amendment to the champion's programme would mean he will now have a barrier trial over 1,050m on the all-weather track at Sha Tin on Tuesday.

Ferraris noted his plan for Vengeance Of Rain had a winning precedent, with John Moore having successfully run Super Kid under top weight of 133 pounds in the Centenary Vase two years ago before backing up to take the Hong Kong Gold Cup at his next start.

The HK$8 million Hong Kong Gold Cup on February 24 is the key race for Vengeance, an event he won last year by a neck, defeating Viva Pataca and Bullish Luck.

Provided he runs up to expectations again in that race, then it is hard to imagine the Dubai Racing Club not inviting him back for an attempt at defending his Dubai Sheema Classic crown at the end of March.

The Group One Stewards' Cup at Sha Tin on Sunday will be the first leg of the triple crown for four-year-olds. Apart from the defection of Vengeance Of Rain, the race also lost the progressive Pocket Money and the "dream world" entry of The Witch's Broom (still eligible for Class Three) to reduce the race to 10 starters.

Last night, Australian bookmaking company Centrebet issued a market on the race and installed Viva Pataca - to be ridden by Darren Beadman - as a $1.85 favourite to beat the top-class milers at their pet distance.

"It looks a clear cut three-horse race," according to Centrebet manager Neil Evans. "We have super consistent Good Ba Ba, who stormed to Group One victory on International Day, a pronounced second-elect at $3.20, with the highly capable Floral Pegasus on the third line at $5.50.

"Nothing else is any chance in the race," he declared.

Floral Pegasus will be reunited with his rider, Gerald Mosse, who stood down in favour of apprentice Marco Chui Kwan-lai last start when trainer Tony Cruz wanted to take advantage of Chui's five-pound allowance under handicap conditions in the Group Three Chinese Club Challenge Cup (1,400m) on January 1.
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:55 AM
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Feel better, Excellent Boy. Ruled out...

Happy retirement, Our Jet.

Okay let's DO it!

R1, I'm not seeing Gallant's pick of Silly Boy here at all.

Flying Kenny (safer to play all / FK) unless Moshi Moshi draws in (stand-by starter).

R2, Bullish Cash / Hail the Storm / Fellowship / Sunny King

I love Bullish Cash. Workout partner to Lucky me and Super Genki (not that that means much but lucky them!) and not just for the Bullish connection (although i do like Bullish Win too). Very short field (9 runners) and they're ALL nice horses.....a lower level Class 1 and should be a lot of fun to watch.

R3, One World / Lifeline Pegasus

R4, The Russian Pearl Handicap, Bold Champion, My Faith, Mythic Speed in some order!

R5, Lucky Hero (best bet!) / Deferential and Sanziro

R6, Come home safe, First Knight... his 94th start. No pick, wide open, will pay huge.

R7...

The other big race...


Race 7 - THE MERCEDES-BENZ HONG KONG CLASSIC MILE
Sunday, January 20, 2008, Sha Tin, 16:00
Turf ,"B+2" Course ,1600m

Prize Money: $8,000,000.00, Rating: -, Race Class: HONG KONG GROUP 1

1 GREEN BIRDIE 126 C Fownes 1080 108 O Doleuze 13 H245 B- 0 -
2 NEVER LOOK BACK 126 P O'Sullivan 1122 105 B Prebble 6 J043 6 -
3 AMBITIOUS GENERAL 126 D J Hall 1116 103 A Delpech 8 J066 SW-/TT1 -2 -
4 HIGH POINT 126 C S Shum 1109 97 G Mosse 11 H215 6 -
5 HELENE MASCOT 126 A S Cruz 1203 94 F Coetzee 3 J164 TT1 - -
6 LUCKYME 126 A S Cruz 1115 94 K L Chui 12 H012 TT 1 -
7 VISIONARIO 126 S Woods 1051 93 C Soumillon 5 J095 0 -
8 FEARLESS 126 D E Ferraris 1123 92 D Whyte 1 H301 -1 -
9 HORACE'S CHOICE 126 C Fownes 1141 89 G Boss 10 H169 TT 1 -
10 EXPRESS WIN 126 C H Yip 1124 88 M Nunes 9 J042 TT 0 -
11 ISLAND SUPER 126 C S Shum 1051 85 E Saint-Martin 2 H297 3 -
12 JACKPOT DELIGHT 126 C Fownes 1181 85 D Beadman 7 J101 B1 0 -
13 STOLEN THUNDER 126 C W Chang 1156 84 Z Purton 4 J003 B/H1 -2 -

Need to ponder!

Edit - I know how good Green Birdie can be but i'm thinking maybe Never look Back with Helene Mascot, Express Win or Visionario underneath.

Lucky me is the rabbit for Helene but Chui doesn't always follow instructions.

R8, Good Ba Ba, Down Town

A great race and not that I'm rooting against Viva pataca here but even with whatever problem Good Ba Ba had a couple of weeks ago? i think he wins here.

IF for some reason Viva Macau wins, I'll be happy. Or Down Town (pretty boy). Or Floral Peg ( a monster last season).

Joyful Winner too. (Snowdrops, where ARE you? Your boy is running!)

In the event Viva pataca does win this, I hope he can win the Triple Crown.

A bet against though..... I'm just sayin'.

R, The Super Kid Handicap, Eight Plus Nine who should be a big longshot here. Yeung is up but we can't have everything go right in life now, can we? Boadcious, Super Baby, Bold Win underneath.

Behave, Wong's Success! Do what the other nice kids do and GO IN THE GATE!

R10, hard race.... reluctantly going with Win Practitioner and South Breeze (Saint-Martin up... interesting) cause he's looked good the last two times.I guess I'd toss in Lu Yue who is the former Retro (NZ) but that's really because i love that Yip / Prebble combo (can you say Bulldozer?).

Brettie has been working him though. Hmmm.....

Another interesting horse is Medico, who is Art Trader's workout buddy. Beadman works him. Pass here but he might be one to keep an eye on.

Come home safe, good boys.

Imaginary baskets of smoochies and peppermints to all of you, , and cheers to the Hong Kong Jockey Club for honoring Russian Pearl, Super Kid, FKP et al.

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r1, silly boy

r4, for russian
pearl,
jamesina

r5, down the
wicket/king e

r9, for super kid,
the success ex,
industrial success/
wongs success

r10,if he is in,
natural nine
if not,
singing dinners

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i can't edit
for some reason
but i forgot
green birdie
in r 7 and
good luck to
first knight.
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AJ...

When you're back, make your picks!
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:57 AM
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For Gallant and Snowdrops.....

Remember this? The Four Geldings of the Apocalypse?

http://blogjra.boxerblog.com/tcschoo.../05/index.html

(Scroll down.....)
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In the big race, I cannot see anything but Good Ba Ba or Floral Pegasus finishing infront. Actually, these two will finish 1st and 2nd but I'm not sure what order.

Love Viva Pataca, but he's better over further than a mile.

In the other race, Salford Mill/Helene Mascot probably has the class, but he would prefer further than a mile really. I don't think Visionario is great. I'm not sure. Maybe Luckyme?
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Maybe Luckyme?
I think he's the rabbit but I guess there's always the Blatant factor.....
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I think he's the rabbit but I guess there's always the Blatant factor.....
I have no idea about this race.

I agree with you about your best bet on the card though, Lucky Hero
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royal prince/
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We both sucked in Race 1.

Race 2 who woulda thought FOJ would win?

1 9 FULL OF JOY(G293) H W Lai 113-3 1 - 1.34.40
2 7 BULLISH CASH(H049) K L Chui 120-5 8 NOSE 1.34.40
3 5 HAIL THE STORM(E125) O Doleuze 122 3 SH 1.34.40
4 8 FELLOWSHIP(G292) G Boss 116 2 N 1.34.40

R3, my boy One World won.

R4, I coulda sworn it said Jamesina (go you!) but i think there might have been an objection... he was 2nd.

Will check the IR when it's up.

R5, I had backwards... Sanziro / Lucky Hero
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First knight was 8th.....
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Helene Mascot wins!

THE MERCEDES-BENZ HONG KONG CLASSIC MILE
HK$ 8,000,000.00


Unofficial Dividends

1 5 HELENE MASCOT(J164) F Coetzee
2 9 HORACE'S CHOICE(H169) G Boss
3 8 FEARLESS(H301) D Whyte
4 1 GREEN BIRDIE(H245) O Doleuze
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Full results.....

1 5 HELENE MASCOT(J164) F Coetzee 126 3 - 1.34.30
2 9 HORACE'S CHOICE(H169) G Boss 126 10 N 1.34.40
3 8 FEARLESS(H301) D Whyte 126 1 1-1/2 1.34.60
4 1 GREEN BIRDIE(H245) O Doleuze 126 13 1-1/2 1.34.60
5 4 HIGH POINT(H215) G Mosse 126 11 3-1/4 1.34.80
6 12 JACKPOT DELIGHT(J101) D Beadman 126 7 3-1/2 1.34.90
7 11 ISLAND SUPER(H297) E Saint-Martin 126 2 4-1/4 1.35.00
8 10 EXPRESS WIN(J042) M Nunes 126 9 4-3/4 1.35.10
9 2 NEVER LOOK BACK(J043) B Prebble 126 6 5-1/2 1.35.20
10 13 STOLEN THUNDER(J003) Z Purton 126 4 5-1/2 1.35.20
11 DH 3 AMBITIOUS GENERAL(J066) A Delpech 126 8 6-1/2 1.35.30
11 DH 7 VISIONARIO(J095) C Soumillon 126 5 6-1/2 1.35.30
13 6 LUCKYME(H012) K L Chui 126 12 7 1.35.40
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Good Ba Ba Wins!


RACE 8(333)
Race Class: 3yo+ - 1600 Metres
THE CITI STEWARDS' CUP
HK$ 8,000,000.00

Going : Good
Course : Turf - "B+2" Course
Race Time : (24.70) (48.2) (1.11.7) (1.34.3)
Sectional Time : 24.70 23.50 23.50 22.60


Placing Horse No. Horse Jockey Actual Wt. Draw Length
Behind
Winner Finishing
Time
1 2 GOOD BA BA(E201) O Doleuze 126 4 - 1.34.30
2 4 FLORAL PEGASUS(G011) G Mosse 126 2 1-1/4 1.34.50
3 1 VIVA PATACA(G096) D Beadman 126 8 3 1.34.70
4 3 DOWN TOWN(G054) D Whyte 126 7 3-1/4 1.34.80
5 6 ABLE ONE(G108) G Boss 126 1 3-3/4 1.34.90
6 10 ROYAL PRINCE(H072) B Prebble 126 6 4-1/4 1.34.90
7 8 VIVA MACAU(H110) Z Purton 126 3 6-1/4 1.35.20
8 9 ART TRADER(E131) E Saint-Martin 126 10 10-3/4 1.36.00

Replay.....
http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/r...eno=8&venue=ST

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