Tomcito of Peru

IrishofNDMan · #1 02-21-2008, 12:18 AM

Serious contender or not? Any information on this horse?

my miss storm cat · #2 02-21-2008, 12:21 AM

Here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1WHDdUuECM

http://www.jcp.org.pe/?rule=3:0:0#11379

Cajungator26 · #3 02-21-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Serious contender or not? Any information on this horse?

Worked 4 furlongs in :46 at Palm Meadows (wow) and seems to have the stamina...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJ8VQqh1f8

As for whether or not he's a legit contender, I have no clue. Haven't seen enough of this colt to have an unbiased opinion.

miraja2 · #4 02-21-2008, 07:11 AM

Bill Finley wrote an article about him a few weeks ago: (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=3230176) Apparently their primary objective at this point is the Belmont Stakes.
I started a thread about the horse in the "International Racing" room awhile ago, but nobody seemed to know much about him.

cowgirlintexas · #5 02-21-2008, 08:24 AM

Heard talk of this horse on "ATR" on Tuesday. Steven Allday I believe it was. Said it was rumored to have a tendon issue and that the :46 workout was for a sale..... Other than that he said he liked the horse, but not much of a chance on making it/winning the Derby.

philcski · #6 02-21-2008, 08:24 AM

If nothing else, he's interesting. How many 2yo's do you know that have beaten 3yo's going any distance, let alone a mile and a half?!?!?

The Bid · #7 02-21-2008, 09:09 AM

Hed be lucky to be an allowance horse

#8 02-21-2008, 09:18 AM

The Bid · #9 02-21-2008, 09:39 AM

Anybody who likes this horse is in for a very rude awakening when he runs

philcski · #10 02-21-2008, 09:46 AM

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Bid does a ton of research on South American imports... i trust his opinion here (and he's probably right, given prior Peru imports)

The Bid · #11 02-21-2008, 10:17 AM

Fortanyo the horse that ran second to Tomcito in a stake was an unraced national horse, meaning he was bred in Peru. The national horses would be lucky to win at Beulah, yet Tomcito beat him by only 3. For the record that was Tomcitos 5th race. A maiden ran second, and it was a national maiden.

Tomcito was defeated by an unraced maiden named Codigo De Honor. Hes a better bred ARG horse. That was after Tomcito had raced twice.

I take back what I said about the horse being lucky to win an allowance. He will be lucky to win for 30 straight 3s.

philcski · #12 02-21-2008, 11:24 AM

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Fortanyo the horse that ran second to Tomcito in a stake was an unraced national horse, meaning he was bred in Peru. The national horses would be lucky to win at Beulah, yet Tomcito beat him by only 3. For the record that was Tomcitos 5th race. A maiden ran second, and it was a national maiden.

Tomcito was defeated by an unraced maiden named Codigo De Honor. Hes a better bred ARG horse. That was after Tomcito had raced twice.

I take back what I said about the horse being lucky to win an allowance. He will be lucky to win for 30 straight 3s.

like i said... i trust your opinion on these types. what can you tell me about the russian bred 3yo's this year

#13 02-21-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Bid does a ton of research on South American imports... i trust his opinion here (and he's probably right, given prior Peru imports)

philcski · #14 02-21-2008, 11:38 AM

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LOL Coach

#15 02-21-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

LOL Coach

take that sentence below my name and put it in Babelfish.

philcski · #16 02-21-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

take that sentence below my name and put it in Babelfish.

don't worry, i speak spanish... i got it

actually i think it'd be a cool story, but it ain't happening any time soon. I'd be surprised to see him competitive at the allowance level.

#17 02-21-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

don't worry, i speak spanish... i got it

actually i think it'd be a cool story, but it ain't happening any time soon. I'd be surprised to see him competitive at the allowance level.

He'd win a few allowance races at Del Mar.

philcski · #18 02-21-2008, 12:10 PM

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He'd win a few allowance races at Del Mar.

he'd win the ph*ckin pacific classic if they don't get that p.o.s. track fixed

#19 04-01-2008, 07:55 AM

First of all let's point to his little jpeg of the Hipodromo de Maroñas, a racetrack/casino that reopened a few years ago. Uruguay is not even considered among the elite of horse venues in South America. Peru's horse racing compared to Uruguay is like comparing the Yankees to a college ball club.
I quote El Bid: "Tomcito was defeated by an unraced maiden named Codigo De Honor."
Codigo De Honor was sold to Saudi Arabia for over a million dollars.

I quote El Bid: "The national horses would be lucky to win at Beulah"

Did you know that Dominguin (Peru) beat INVASOR in Dubai?
Yes, The Bid is a ******.

I quote El Bid: "Hed be lucky to be an allowance horse".

Mmmmm...Tomcito came in 3rd in the Florida Derby after a 5 month layoff. Can a forum member be this dumb?

I quote El Bid: "Anybody who likes this horse is in for a very rude awakening when he runs".
This guy is just taking advantage of his right of "Freedom of speech". Thank God we are awake now.

Peru has one of the most beautiful racetracks in the world bar none. To win a Grade I in Peru is extremely hard. Next time, please don't pay attention to a narrow minded guy like The Bid.

If anyone has questions about Tomcito, I will be more than happy to answer.

cowgirlintexas · #20 04-01-2008, 08:04 AM

I still like the horse and look forward to seeing him run back.. I don't think he disgraced himself by his coming at the end 3rd. I think he still has a chance in the Belmont perhaps.