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Old 02-26-2008, 01:08 AM
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:49 PM
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Majestic Warrior was entered in Saturday's Louisiana Derby drawing the nine hole with Gomez named. The son of A.P. Indy completed his major preparation with a half mile at Payson Park Sunday morning.

Reading between the lines, perhaps with blurred vision, the work "looks" very good, if not outstanding. The time given was 48.40 and it was a co-bullet with about a dozen or so working that distance. Only one other worker broke 50 seconds and a black type work is generally very good.

A more in depth analysis that calls for conclusion, and maybe an upgrade to outstanding is within reason. MW has been working steadily and a little longer each work with his last work 2/23 going six panels. Yesterday's half matches up with stablemate Duke Of Pearl and that one is entered also eligible later in the week. "Duke" is bred in the purple ( a half to Vision and Verse et. al.) and is quick in the mornings. Additionally "Duke" was entered blinkers ON and trainers usually work their horses in blinkers before running them in that equipment change as most jurisdictions require starter approval. Sophomore colts, especially those by Unbridled's Song can lay down some swift splits, first time hood and this work could be spot on.

By any measure MW faces a tough task Saturday with Pyro and Tale Of Ekati, two of a half dozen or so that can win the roses. Nevertheless in a year where several "big name" contenders have counterfeit ten panel pedigrees ( War Pass, El Gato Malo, etc.) MW remains, at least for now, one of the ones. BBB
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:03 PM
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I thought only one horse can win the Derby ( though I hadn't accounted for a dead heat ).

Has there ever been a dead heat among a half dozen ( or so ) horses?
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:36 PM
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Majestic Warrior was entered in Saturday's Louisiana Derby drawing the nine hole with Gomez named. The son of A.P. Indy completed his major preparation with a half mile at Payson Park Sunday morning.

Reading between the lines, perhaps with blurred vision, the work "looks" very good, if not outstanding. The time given was 48.40 and it was a co-bullet with about a dozen or so working that distance. Only one other worker broke 50 seconds and a black type work is generally very good.

A more in depth analysis that calls for conclusion, and maybe an upgrade to outstanding is within reason. MW has been working steadily and a little longer each work with his last work 2/23 going six panels. Yesterday's half matches up with stablemate Duke Of Pearl and that one is entered also eligible later in the week. "Duke" is bred in the purple ( a half to Vision and Verse et. al.) and is quick in the mornings. Additionally "Duke" was entered blinkers ON and trainers usually work their horses in blinkers before running them in that equipment change as most jurisdictions require starter approval. Sophomore colts, especially those by Unbridled's Song can lay down some swift splits, first time hood and this work could be spot on.

By any measure MW faces a tough task Saturday with Pyro and Tale Of Ekati, two of a half dozen or so that can win the roses. Nevertheless in a year where several "big name" contenders have counterfeit ten panel pedigrees ( War Pass, El Gato Malo, etc.) MW remains, at least for now, one of the ones. BBB
Good analysis. Do you know that a good number of works at Payson, PBD and Palm Meadows are clocked and reported by trainers or their staff? Not that it matters much but if you drill down as hard as you seem to do on works, it may be something to think about. Aside from frequency and spacing, it's pretty impossible to glean much from works unless you see them yourself and are an outstanding judge of physical appearance.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:19 AM
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Good analysis. Do you know that a good number of works at Payson, PBD and Palm Meadows are clocked and reported by trainers or their staff? Not that it matters much but if you drill down as hard as you seem to do on works, it may be something to think about. Aside from frequency and spacing, it's pretty impossible to glean much from works unless you see them yourself and are an outstanding judge of physical appearance.
Good analysis? He wrote a dissertation about a phuckin' 4 furlong work that was published in the DRF. MW may turn out to be a very good horse but there is NO chance he wins the La Derby. NONE.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:37 AM
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... Aside from frequency and spacing, it's pretty impossible to glean much from works unless you see them yourself .....
so true....especially Payson works...
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:17 AM
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Good analysis? He wrote a dissertation about a phuckin' 4 furlong work that was published in the DRF. MW may turn out to be a very good horse but there is NO chance he wins the La Derby. NONE.


A bit tongue in cheek. I'm still anxious to hear BBBs account of how MW hot-walked after the work.
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:20 AM
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A bit tongue in cheek. I'm still anxious to hear BBBs account of how MW hot-walked after the work.

You caught Phil of guard......ya know, being that you're usually soooooooo serious.
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:31 AM
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You caught Phil of guard......ya know, being that you're usually soooooooo serious.
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A bit tongue in cheek. I'm still anxious to hear BBBs account of how MW hot-walked after the work.

Well done. Ya got me.
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Old 03-08-2008, 11:00 PM
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Yeah, he sure didn't look like a closing sprinter today.
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:19 PM
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Well he didn't have the best of trips...but that's still no excuse for the lack of heart down the stretch. He looks like a grade III horse...maybe II since the division is so weak.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:12 PM
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Well he didn't have the best of trips...but that's still no excuse for the lack of heart down the stretch. He looks like a grade III horse...maybe II since the division is so weak.
i liked the comeback, strong middle move, then flat... its ok.. next race he fires huge
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:17 PM
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i liked the comeback, strong middle move, then flat... its ok.. next race he fires huge
we'll see, I have my doubts though.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:21 PM
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i liked the comeback, strong middle move, then flat... its ok.. next race he fires huge
Good luck with that.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:37 PM
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This horse would be a great bet...




















in the Bay Shore.

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