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Old 03-03-2008, 04:34 PM
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AQU 8th Gotham Stakes (G3)

ANTICIPATED FIELD...

Giant Moon
Visionaire
Eaton's Gift
Holidaze
Roman Emperor
Texas Wildcatter
Ling Ling Qi
Saratoga Russell
Southern Terminus



FG 9th (4:48) Louisiana Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $600,000

1 Stevil Borel C H 122 Blk-On L
2 My Pal Charlie Leparoux J R 122 L
3 Pyro Bridgmohan S X 122 L
4 J Be K Desormeaux K J 122 L
5 Unbridled Vicar Lanerie C J 122 L
6 Tale of Ekati Prado E S 122 L
7 Blackberry Road Albarado R J 122 L
8 Yankee Bravo Solis A 122 L
9 Majestic Warrior Gomez G K 122 L



BM 8th (4:15) El Camino Real Derby (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Nikki'sgoldensteed Court J K 117 L
2 General Dan Kaenel K 115 L
3 Autism Awareness Contreras L 115 L
4 Bamaha Breeze Martinez L V 115 L
5 Tres Borrachos Garcia M 115 L
6 Pleasure Grounds Schvaneveldt C P 115 L
7 Behindatthebar Baze M C 115 L
8 Coast Guard Gryder A T 115 L
9 Dreamed Day Alvarado F T 115 L
10 Master Daniel Baze R A 115 L
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:53 PM
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I think this is a very interesting group especially with the addition of Coast Guard.
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BM 8th (4:15) El Camino Real Derby (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Nikki'sgoldensteed Court J K 117 L
2 General Dan Kaenel K 115 L
3 Autism Awareness Contreras L 115 L
4 Bamaha Breeze Martinez L V 115 L
5 Tres Borrachos Garcia M 115 L
6 Pleasure Grounds Schvaneveldt C P 115 L
7 Behindatthebar Baze M C 115 L
8 Coast Guard Gryder A T 115 L
9 Dreamed Day Alvarado F T 115 L
10 Master Daniel Baze R A 115 L
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:08 PM
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I think this is a very interesting group especially with the addition of Coast Guard.
Three Drunks is a nice hunch play.

(Tres Borrachos)

Martin Garcia, in a return to Bay Meadows, also makes him worth a 2nd look.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:12 PM
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Behindatthebar should light these up. I suppose his pedigree is geared towards sprinting, but his running style certainly suggests this is in range. This could be Todd Pletcher's main Derby hope after the weekend.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:48 PM
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BM 8th (4:15) El Camino Real Derby (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Nikki'sgoldensteed Court J K 117 L
2 General Dan Kaenel K 115 L
3 Autism Awareness Contreras L 115 L
4 Bamaha Breeze Martinez L V 115 L
5 Tres Borrachos Garcia M 115 L
6 Pleasure Grounds Schvaneveldt C P 115 L
7 Behindatthebar Baze M C 115 L
8 Coast Guard Gryder A T 115 L
9 Dreamed Day Alvarado F T 115 L
10 Master Daniel Baze R A 115 L
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:28 AM
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Looking through the pp's I noticed the name Autism Awareness and his past work and couldn't help but laugh out loud hysterically for a good 15 seconds. Haven't done that in a long time.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:33 AM
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Looking through the pp's I noticed the name Autism Awareness and his past work and couldn't help but laugh out loud hysterically for a good 15 seconds. Haven't done that in a long time.
Wasn't he struggling through 50,000 maiden claimers just a few months ago?
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:37 AM
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Looking through the pp's I noticed the name Autism Awareness and his past work and couldn't help but laugh out loud hysterically for a good 15 seconds. Haven't done that in a long time.
A four furlong 46.80 workout made you laugh that much?
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:50 AM
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A four furlong 46.80 workout made you laugh that much?
Yes. There is no way this horse wasn't all out for that work. They are dressing up a mule. Why don't they get Dustin Hoffman to ride the horse instead of Contreras? Afterall isn't it publicity that they want? What else could explain this insane jump in class?

I could be wrong and this horse could be the real deal in what is a horrible graded race. I was wrong about the filly in the Battaglia...
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:04 AM
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The way the Derby Trail has been thus far.. I'm sure some are coming out of the wood work now, thinking "Why not"... Pretty "Ho-hum". I sure hope this weekend changes things a bit and we can start to get a clearer picture. Personally, I am hoping to see how Coast Guard does. He should romp against those.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:42 AM
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No Barrier Reef? Anyone know what race he is being pointed to?
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:55 PM
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Yes. There is no way this horse wasn't all out for that work. They are dressing up a mule. Why don't they get Dustin Hoffman to ride the horse instead of Contreras? Afterall isn't it publicity that they want? What else could explain this insane jump in class?

I could be wrong and this horse could be the real deal in what is a horrible graded race. I was wrong about the filly in the Battaglia...
I thought that filly raced incredibly well
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Old 03-04-2008, 03:46 PM
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the gotham appears to have come up a very very good race, very strong.
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Old 03-04-2008, 03:49 PM
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the gotham appears to have come up a very very good race, very strong.
I think it at max will produce one Derby starter and quite possibly none.
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Old 03-04-2008, 03:52 PM
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i think 2 ... giant moon and roman emperor.
and saratoga russell is possible, if they find a prep that he can steal. he is obviously very fast, i would never play him, but i am sure they want to get him there.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:00 PM
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Yes. There is no way this horse wasn't all out for that work. They are dressing up a mule. Why don't they get Dustin Hoffman to ride the horse instead of Contreras? Afterall isn't it publicity that they want? What else could explain this insane jump in class?

I could be wrong and this horse could be the real deal in what is a horrible graded race. I was wrong about the filly in the Battaglia...
I'm honestly impressed you brought up your wrong call on the filly. It's rare (and refreshing) to see someone revisit an opinion that makes him/her look less than brilliant.

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Old 03-04-2008, 04:03 PM
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i think 2 ... giant moon and roman emperor.
and saratoga russell is possible, if they find a prep that he can steal. he is obviously very fast, i would never play him, but i am sure they want to get him there.
All of those horses would drown against War Pass in the Wood. The only reason I could see one horse making the Derby is the likelihood that someone from this field would go to the Illinois Derby to duck War Pass and pick up some cheap earnings.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:06 PM
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The Gotham is an interesting race, and perhaps a very good betting race, especially if Giant Moon is even close to the favorite, but as of now nobody in there has done anything to distinguish themselves. A lot of perfect trip winners from what I can see.

I just hope it's an even/fair track.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:07 PM
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No Barrier Reef? Anyone know what race he is being pointed to?

He's in Florida. After his win in the Whirlaway he was switched to Godolphin.

Apparently the Sheik was upset that Bernardini didn't carry the Godolphin colors so now anyone with any promise gets switched to Godolphin.

Just be glad he didn't go to Dubai.
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The Gotham is an interesting race, and perhaps a very good betting race, especially if Giant Moon is even close to the favorite, but as of now nobody in there has done anything to distinguish themselves. A lot of perfect trip winners from what I can see.

I just hope it's an even/fair track.
i cant see giant moon being favorite vs this group.
pletcher will be bet
roman emperor will be bet.
saratoga russell.
i can see giant moon around 4-1
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