3/8 (FG): LA Derby Day (6 Stakes)

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Lava

IMO Gomez screwed up by trying to slow IB down the backside.

It was definitely a strange ride, IMO. The horse looked terrible under that hold, fighting him down the backside.

It looked like he was riding the race from Proud Spell's perspective instead of letting her run her own race. That said, she still got away with soft enough numbers where you would think she should have had something left -- especially if we want to even begin talking about an extra sixteenth in two months.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

He was very game.

Grasshopper is very moderate.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Grasshopper is very moderate.

Maybe so, but game nonetheless. He didn't just spit the bit (which he could have.)

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What kind of breather does he need going those kinds of fractions? You say CQ had a dream trip and was fresh? They've both run one race this year and on those soft fractions with a clear lead, I thought Grasshopper was the one with the dream trip.

The biggest misconception in horse racing is the representation of fractions as an easy or perfect trip. They are a contributor, but when there is another rival alongside you, it's far different than being alone in front with those same fractions. Grasshopper put away Magna Graduate, and just couldn't hold off CQ. I do think Robby Albarado rode Grasshopper way too cute and didn't do the horse any favors. Saying his trip was perfect is far from accurate.

[Danzig]

i certainly enjoyed the stretch run between grasshopper and circular far more than that joke of a 'match race' (due to scratches) at gulfstream. but then, that isn't saying a whole lot.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Grasshopper is very moderate.

I'm guessing the Beyer comes back around 100-102, which is right in line with the top two finishers. I think he's a competitive grade two horse.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The biggest misconception in horse racing is the representation of fractions as an easy or perfect trip. They are a contributor, but when there is another rival alongside you, it's far different than being alone in front with those same fractions. Grasshopper put away Magna Graduate, and just couldn't hold off CQ. I do think Robby Albarado rode Grasshopper way too cute and didn't do the horse any favors. Saying his trip was perfect is far from accurate.

I understand the fractions thing but I still thought he was going slow enough to have been able to win it. Maybe his trip wasn't perfect but I thought it was easier than CQ's.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm guessing the Beyer comes back around 100-102, which is right in line with the top two finishers. I think he's a competitive grade two horse.

In the handicap divisions of 1996 through 1998, a Beyer in that range would get you beat almost double digits in many Grade 2's.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

In the handicap divisions of 1996 through 1998, a Beyer in that range would get you beat almost double digits in many Grade 2's.

Exactly.

Again, I can't believe that Tagg is not even considering putting Nobiz back on the dirt. If he can run a 105, he can be HOY if Curlin doesn't make it back from Dubai. At least older male champion.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

In the handicap divisions of 1996 through 1998, a Beyer in that range would get you beat almost double digits in many Grade 2's.

I know. Bring back the Cigar's, Skip Aways, Silver Charms, Lemon Drop Kids of the world (not saying they are the best, but they came to mind first).

Not going to happen. With these McTrainers getting all of the good stock you can expect mediocrity and lack of depth in the divisions from here on out.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by booner

I thought about Pyro - MPC straight, but there is just something about MPC that caught my eye. I'm going to stick to playing it both ways.

I'll pass on your offer. Thanks anyway.

Hats off! you were right I was kinda wrong.
Hope you CRUSHED IT!!!

[DCracing]

Originally Posted by Scav

Tell you this about Grasshopper, he is a hell of a looking horse....

Yes! u have stumbled uncontrollably into the truth! reminds me of the first time i saw bettertalknow in the paddock on belmont stakes day last june. talk about sculptured athletes! some horses are just a joy to watch...which is probably why i keep coming back!

thank you steve for this board. (even if some of the posters are malcontents!!! present company excluded...)

[Sightseek]

Yeah for Euroears!