Azeri Stakes

letswastemoney · #1 03-09-2008, 06:12 PM

I can't see the race. Who won and who finished 2nd?

Danzig · #2 03-09-2008, 06:54 PM

hystericalady over brownie points.

Danzig · #3 03-09-2008, 06:54 PM

payouts:

9th race - Oaklawn Park - March 09, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
5 Hystericalady 3.40 2.80 2.20
4 Brownie Points 5.60 5.20
3 Clever Strike 6.60

$2 Exacta 5-4 20.20
$1 Trifecta 5-4-3 50.60

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 03-09-2008, 08:23 PM

Nice to know Hystericalady won't have to disgrace her good name on a synthetic surface ever again.

ArlJim78 · #5 03-10-2008, 10:10 AM

A win is a win, but I'm not sure how much her good name is restored when it comes against a tiny gr3 field.

SentToStud · #6 03-10-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

A win is a win, but I'm not sure how much her good name is restored when it comes against a tiny gr3 field.

Not long ago she'd have come back in a money Allowance. Now, these fields come up so soft, it's pretty much the same thing to come back in a G 3 like she did. I thought she ran well. Hopefully the Apple Blossom comes up strong.

jcs11204 · #7 03-10-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

A win is a win, but I'm not sure how much her good name is restored when it comes against a tiny gr3 field.

disagree... she obviously hates synthetic........ her last 3 races on dirt have been gigantic. i dont really like her, but isent she a top 3 older filly right now ?

blackthroatedwind · #8 03-10-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Not long ago she'd have come back in a money Allowance. Now, these fields come up so soft, it's pretty much the same thing to come back in a G 3 like she did. I thought she ran well. Hopefully the Apple Blossom comes up strong.

Pray tell, Bruce, who the " strong " fillies and mares are that may show up?

jcs11204 · #9 03-10-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Pray tell, Bruce, who the " strong " fillies and mares are that may show up?

no one...

blackthroatedwind · #10 03-10-2008, 11:02 AM

Actually, there are a couple of horses that can run a little that could well show up. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lear's Princess in there. Spring Waltz, the Stronach filly that won the Rampart at Gulfstream yesterday, looks like she may be OK ( now that she is racing on real dirt ). I have no idea where Lady Joanne is but I suppose it's not impossible she runs.

ArlJim78 · #11 03-10-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

disagree... she obviously hates synthetic........ her last 3 races on dirt have been gigantic. i dont really like her, but isent she a top 3 older filly right now ?

getting beat by Nashobas Key, a horse that seems to relish the synthetic, is no disgrace. She runs consistently pretty well in all of her races if you ask me. her return race wasn't so swift this year, but who knows what kind of surface they had at Santa Anita in early feb. the track was all over the map.
maybe she needed that race anyway.

SentToStud · #12 03-10-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Pray tell, Bruce, who the " strong " fillies and mares are that may show up?

Hysterical Lady is a very nice horse.

I don't know what's up with Ginger Punch, but she's a very nice horse and the race seems logical for her.

Spring Waltz looked terrific yeaterday, pairing up 106's and is a great story after not running until the summer of her 4 yo year.

I don't know what the plans are for Lady Joanne or Lears Princess.

I think if 3 of those five run, it's a strong field. It's also the only G 1 long dirt race for older Fillies and Mares until Belmont in June so it's not far flung some of these are pointing there.

blackthroatedwind · #13 03-10-2008, 11:34 AM

Ginger Punch and Spring Waltz will be kept apart I assume. It's too bad we can't still ask that guy who pretends to work for Frankel.

I obviously agree with the rest.

Kasept · #14 03-10-2008, 11:43 AM

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I have no idea where Lady Joanne is but I suppose it's not impossible she runs.

Out with a knee strain... same exact injury that has SWLY on the shelf.

cakes44 · #15 03-10-2008, 11:51 AM

On a little tangent here, but that was a brutal stretch call by Wallace. He's so busy creaming his pants because Kettleonup is being "shot out of a cannon" that if you are just listening to his call, you have no idea that Brownie Points is moving up to run a clear-cut 2nd. Kettleonup didn't even finish in the money for cripes sake.

The Indomitable DrugS · #16 03-10-2008, 05:53 PM

Hystericalady's last 5 dirt races have resulted in 4 wins and one narrow 2nd place finish to sweet trip Ginger Punch in the BC Distaff.

She's winless in four tries on a synthetic - losing to a claimer last time out - and wasting a super easy trip and still getting run down by Tough Tiz's Sis two back on synthetic.

Her pair of losses to Noshoba's Key came in just career starts #4 and #5 for NK, and they were very conclusive losses to a very lightly raced filly.

Danzig · #17 03-10-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

On a little tangent here, but that was a brutal stretch call by Wallace. He's so busy creaming his pants because Kettleonup is being "shot out of a cannon" that if you are just listening to his call, you have no idea that Brownie Points is moving up to run a clear-cut 2nd. Kettleonup didn't even finish in the money for cripes sake.

i never paid attention to his calls--i really don't pay attention to any of them--but after he was brought up a few weeks ago on here, i started listening.

he's not that good.

Danzig · #18 03-10-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Hystericalady's last 5 dirt races have resulted in 4 wins and one narrow 2nd place finish to sweet trip Ginger Punch in the BC Distaff.

She's winless in four tries on a synthetic - losing to a claimer last time out - and wasting a super easy trip and still getting run down by Tough Tiz's Sis two back on synthetic.

Her pair of losses to Noshoba's Key came in just career starts #4 and #5 for NK, and they were very conclusive losses to a very lightly raced filly.

and i read this morning in the ark paper that she's returning to cali--no decision as to whether she'll return for the apple blossom. if it was me, she'd stay and aim for that. but what do i know?

The Indomitable DrugS · #19 03-10-2008, 09:13 PM

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and i read this morning in the ark paper that she's returning to cali--no decision as to whether she'll return for the apple blossom. if it was me, she'd stay and aim for that. but what do i know?

She's running in the Apple Blossom.

You can pencil her in...in fact, she will be on a plane with her stablemate Heatseeker for the OP Handicap that same day.

Trainers seem to think that by pretending like they have other options to look at - they can sway the racing secretary into assigning a little more favorible weight spread for the race.

One of the funniest ones of late was Baffert refusing to enter Tough Tiz's Sis in the Grade 1 at SA on Sunday because she was assigned 118 pounds, 4 less than Nashoba's Key.

First of all, Bobby, she won a Grade 1 race over the track (albeit over a perfect trip Hystericalady who can barely stand up on synthetics) - second of all, Mr. Baffert, that field was moderate and Tough Tiz's Sis would have been no more than 3/1 or 7/2.

When an assigned 118lbs is enough to get a 3/1 or 7/2 shot scratched from a Grade 1 stake ... you know you are talking about racing in the 21st century.

Danzig · #20 03-10-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

She's running in the Apple Blossom.

You can pencil her in...in fact, she will be on a plane with her stablemate Heatseeker for the OP Handicap that same day.

Trainers seem to think that by pretending like they have other options to look at - they can sway the racing secretary into assigning a little more favorible weight spread for the race.

One of the funniest ones of late was Baffert refusing to enter Tough Tiz's Sis in the Grade 1 at SA on Sunday because she was assigned 118 pounds, 4 less than Nashoba's Key.

First of all, Bobby, she won a Grade 1 race over the track (albeit over a perfect trip Hystericalady who can barely stand up on synthetics) - second of all, Mr. Baffert, that field was moderate and Tough Tiz's Sis would have been no more than 3/1 or 7/2.

When an assigned 118lbs is enough to get a 3/1 or 7/2 shot scratched from a Grade 1 stake ... you know you are talking about racing in the 21st century.

i figure the logical choice would be to run her there next month--i guess that's why i was surprised to see that they were flying her back...hell of a way to get a break from the secretary.

but i wasn't quite as surprised at that news as i was that ginger bay (6 lifetime starts) is retiring to be a broodmare after her stakes win--a knee chip.

then the news on silver lord, who we all saw try to veer left at the start the other day in the NO handicap...they were hoping to go from there to the oaklawn handicap, but now the trainer is looking for a race-that unless he can find something in a hurry, silver lord will not be in arkansas mid-april...