mccarron to tvg

[deltagulf]

mccarron to work for tvg starting in april.
looks to me replacing stevens there.

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory...270&source=rss

Yeah looks like Keeneland and big days only.

[Indian Charlie]

i dont know what's worse. mccarron on tv, or mccarron on a horse.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

i dont know what's worse. mccarron on tv, or mccarron on a horse.

I don't know what's worse. An ignorant statement. Or a really ignorant statement.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

i dont know what's worse. mccarron on tv, or mccarron on a horse.

29 years of class and excellence, ladies and gentleman David McFrischling!!!!!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I don't know what's worse. An ignorant statement. Or a really ignorant statement.

Coming from you, I'll take that as validation of my statement.

"Showing the Speed of Ruffian, the class of Lady's Secret and the Heart of Personal Ensign. One of the Greats of ALL time! This IS AZERI!" - Vic Stauffer

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Coming from you, I'll take that as validation of my statement.

"Showing the Speed of Ruffian, the class of Lady's Secret and the Heart of Personal Ensign. One of the Greats of ALL time! This IS AZERI!" - Vic Stauffer

So your saying that Azeri isn't a 'great'?

[deltagulf]

whats wrong with chris being on tvg.
i believe he will do a good job.

[fpsoxfan]

Give me Stevens in the booth over Bailey any day.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I don't know what's worse. An ignorant statement. Or a really ignorant statement.

Totally agree Mr. McCarron was the best race rider in my time, Sorry Shoe.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

McCarron was a great rider. It doesn't hurt that he rode two of my favorite horses though...Sunday Silence and Tiznow. The horses that he rode always seemed to be able to gut out the win in close races.

Hey why did you delete that fine post?

[Indian Charlie]

mccarron, for about 10 years, had a knack for doing two things while riding a race.

one, he had a tendency to get himself outmaneuvered and trapped on the rail.

two, he was beyond awful, i'm talking pg1985 awful, on speed horses going a route of ground. he often would take a horse like precisionist or bertrando and take them out of their game by trying to throttle their speed way down.

the idea being that if he saved horse early, he'd have more horse later. this might work on some horses, but when a horses only weapon is their raw blazing speed (talking routes here), making them run slow early makes them waste energy and also enables their opponents to conserve energy for the later stages of the race as well.

i think i've seen sal try to explain this concept to people on here, but for whatever reason, this simple piece of racing fact is somewhat elusive for most people here.

i'll give mccarron some credit though, as later in his career, sometime around the mid 90's, he actually figured this out and started to ride MUCH better. not only was he riding speed better, but his in race tactics were much sounder.

that's one of the things that drive me crazy about most jocks. they dont seem to enter a race with a concept of how the race will unfold, and inevitably will become a victim of how the race develops.

the other thing about mccarron, he was a known ass kisser of epic proportions at socal tracks back in the 80's and 90's. probably in the 2000s as well.

i was talking to the office manager of one of the better known socal trainers (hall of fame trainer) back around the early 90s. beyond being the officer manager of this trainer, she was also related to him. anyways, when we were talking about horses and jocks and such, she told me that when this trainer learned that mccarron had suffered a major injury (i believe a broken leg!), this trainer jumped out of his chair and was actually ecstatic.

i don't remember the exact quote she gave, but to paraphrase, it went something like "yes! serves that as.s kissing SOB right!".

he could not stand mccarron, even though he used him pretty frequently on some great animals.

nitpick and flame away.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Scav

So your saying that Azeri isn't a 'great'?

No. I'm saying it's ridiculous to compare Azeri to those three horses.

I would suggest you take remedial English lessons or buy a dictionary to improve your vocabulary.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Totally agree Mr. McCarron was the best race rider in my time, Sorry Shoe.

If you believe that Shoe was the only legitimate jockey to compare to Mccarron, well, I don't know what to say to that!!

Pincay was certainly better than both.

PVal when he didn't have his head up his butt.

Cordero.

Bailey.

Eddie D.

Toro on the turf even!

Gary Stevens before he fell in love with himself.

Kent D. before his second or third fall.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No. I'm saying it's ridiculous to compare Azeri to those three horses.

I would suggest you take remedial English lessons or buy a dictionary to improve your vocabulary.

While you may take issue with what Vic Stauffer said in his call, please remember that in winning the Vanity Handicap, Azeri was picking up her 10th consecutive win, her 13th consecutive 100+ Beyer and had beaten everything thrown her way in the prior 15 months. That being said, comparing her to those three was a bit of a stretch.

As far as McCarron, I think the 2000 and 2001 Breeders' Cup Classics say all that needs to be said about what kind of rider he was.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

McCarron was a great rider. It doesn't hurt that he rode two of my favorite horses though...Sunday Silence and Tiznow. The horses that he rode always seemed to be able to gut out the win in close races.

I take back what I said about you when I defended you at the time you were compared to PG1985.

The horses he rode always seemed to gut out the win in close races???

I can think of few weaker jocks in that department.

He was notorious in the 80s for waiting too long! Ferdinand beating Alysheba in the classic is a nice example off the top of my head.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

While you may take issue with what Vic Stauffer said in his call, please remember that in winning the Vanity Handicap, Azeri was picking up her 10th consecutive win, her 13th consecutive 100+ Beyer and had beaten everything thrown her way in the prior 15 months. That being said, comparing her to those three was a bit of a stretch.

As far as McCarron, I think the 2000 and 2001 Breeders' Cup Classics say all that needs to be said about what kind of rider he was.

NT

Yeah, like I said previously, in the mid 90's he seemed to have figured things out and became a much better jockey. There was a span of two or three years around then where it seemed like he couldn't get beat.

Prior to that though....

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

George Wendt.

Toushe'

But really I could care less.