Big Brown Derby Odds off of win

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

The performance was impressive, especially all the hype regarding the poor post. Elysium Fields was very disappointing, Tomcito ran a decent race off a lay off and Steve predicted a good run from Smooth Air.Lets see what happens after the Wood and which War Pass shows up, I could see a speed duel in the derby setting up nicely for El Gato Malo or Court Vision.

Reported to have a fever going into the race. Now thats away to ruin a good horse.

[Bobby Fischer]

10-1 without a scratch refund is a risky wager when you have a health issue

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really, where did you see that?

The last thing I heard was that he came out of the race fine. The connections said the heat of the day bothered him.

[Ogygian]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I like how the horse couldn't make up his mind between the rail and the ambulance path.

Big Brown reminded me of Hammer'n Hank coming down the stretch. His stretch run was as bad as Hank's commentary.

[mik9872]

Prediction: Big Brown will be the final Derby Future Pool favorite.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really, where did you see that?

Heard it from Brad Free this morning.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

Big Brown reminded me of Hammer'n Hank coming down the stretch. His stretch run was as bad as Hank's commentary.

I know it's easy to pile on Hank, but he really is the worst. I kinda liked El Gato Malo for the Derby until I saw that he was Hank's top pick.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Is it in print somewhere?

Should be but I dont know where. We will see it in the next day if its true.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

The last thing I heard was that he came out of the race fine. The connections said the heat of the day bothered him.

NOT being very good also might've played a role. Watching him get zapped at CRC in December, sort of clued me in that this dude is not exactly top tier.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

Big Brown reminded me of Hammer'n Hank coming down the stretch. His stretch run was as bad as Hank's commentary.

Well said.

[dylbert]

Paraphrasing Little Feat's 1974 album title, "Feats Don't Fail Me Now", Big Brown's feet may have more impact on his ability to make Kentucky Derby starting gate than any other factor. He sure liked his shoes yesterday!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

Big Brown reminded me of Hammer'n Hank coming down the stretch. His stretch run was as bad as Hank's commentary.

LMFAO

[johnny pinwheel]

thought the field was mediocre. but love when horses run like war pass and big brown. both are speed and its usually the kiss of death in the derby. one will hit the board, one will be up the track. if they both even start. even better they'll take all the sucker money. big brown was tired at the end if he makes another 1/8 with that breeding i'll be surprised. in the derby anything under 3-1 is a bad bet. especially the way the crops of been . the fave rarely wins

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Scav

At 10/1 I would even play the horse....

Try more like 4/1 favorite, especially becuase they will connect him to the "Barbaro route"

I could have had 7-1 at CRIS immediately after the race yesterday, but decided against it. First, I wasn't sure that was good enough; second, I already have a good chunk of change on All Others from Pool 1 of the Ky Derby Future Wager, and a smaller amount on All Others from Pool 2.

Odds now at both CRIS and World Sports Exchange are a ridiculous 2-1. If Pinnacle and TheGreek get around to posting odds, it will be closer to 4-1, I think.

--Dunbar

[slotdirt]

I don't have the time to go through the charts to verify, but the favorites at post time have done at least reasonably well the last dozen years or so at the Derby. Street Sense, Smarty Jones and Barbaro come to mind (though Sweetnorthernsaint may have been the betting favorite, I really can't recall).

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I could have had 7-1 at CRIS immediately after the race yesterday, but decided against it. First, I wasn't sure that was good enough; second, I already have a good chunk of change on All Others from Pool 1 of the Ky Derby Future Wager, and a smaller amount on All Others from Pool 2.

Odds now at both CRIS and World Sports Exchange are a ridiculous 2-1. If Pinnacle and TheGreek get around to posting odds, it will be closer to 4-1, I think.

--Dunbar

I have heard that Pinnacle is shuting out horse people now, especially the winners......

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

thought the field was mediocre. but love when horses run like war pass and big brown. both are speed and its usually the kiss of death in the derby. one will hit the board, one will be up the track. if they both even start. even better they'll take all the sucker money. big brown was tired at the end if he makes another 1/8 with that breeding i'll be surprised. in the derby anything under 3-1 is a bad bet. especially the way the crops of been . the fave rarely wins

i have a hard time believing he'd be 3-1. smarty was the fave at 4-1-with the size of the field, and no real superstar...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I don't have the time to go through the charts to verify, but the favorites at post time have done at least reasonably well the last dozen years or so at the Derby. Street Sense, Smarty Jones and Barbaro come to mind (though Sweetnorthernsaint may have been the betting favorite, I really can't recall).

i do believe SNS was the favorite.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i do believe SNS was the favorite.

Yep, he was the final favorite, although Brother Derek was the M/L fave. The Cliff's Edge was the M/L favorite for 2004 at 4-1, although Smarty did go off as the favorite when the gates opened.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Scav

I have heard that Pinnacle is shuting out horse people now, especially the winners......

They automatically closed my account when they stopped taking US customers.

They dropped their WPS rebate from 7% to 5% in November. So they were probably not doing great with that.

--Dunbar