Adriano

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Sap Police report to duty...

I aint afraid to admit it...that kinda sh*t goes a long way with me.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Originally Posted by GPK

I aint afraid to admit it...that kinda sh*t goes a long way with me.

Does with me too.
Not that I have had anything close to
what happened to you, which is damn scary.

But damn it be a man.
We dont do sap on message boards.
We only do that in private.
Its not allowed.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Does with me too.
Not that I have had anything close to
what happened to you, which is damn scary.

But damn it be a man.
We dont do sap on message boards.
We only do that in private.
Its not allowed.

Not sap..just speaking the truth man.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Dude, are you serious? 5th in the Derby? Who cares about that? Adriano actually has run some nice races which is more than I can say for Sedgefield. Where exactly was his good race?

Are YOU serious? What makes Adriano's races "nice" and Sedgefield's not "good"? Sedgefield ran better figures and faced infinitely better horses than Adriano has..

[eajinabi]

Adriano put up two nice looking performances. One on Turf and one on Poly. His turf race looked good but he did settle behind a really fast pace before he took the race on his own and won by 8. His Lanes End Race he won in hand and just shook off his competetion. He may not like dirt if the FOY tells me anything but who knows what happened that day.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Scav

That is NOT A BROMANCE numnuts. Any good friend would do that.

It is like when you are dating a girl but you always have to have your friend around. I don't know of this because if I am dating a girl, we are either eating or doing the other good thing, and my friends aint around for either of that stuff. But I guess there are dudes that want to have their friends around all the time, yadda yadda.

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

[CSC]

There are not many horses that have started their career on turf that went on to the derby and win it. The obvious one is Barbaro who was a special horse, I know I used the Barbaro comparison earlier. But to me a knowledgable horseman in Graham Motion wouldn't have started him on turf, ran him exclusively on that surface until trying a dirt race at GP If he thought he was better on dirt. I think it's very safe to surmise that Adriano is not a second coming of Barbaro. If he does go onto the derby demand a big price on him!

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Are YOU serious? What makes Adriano's races "nice" and Sedgefield's not "good"? Sedgefield ran better figures and faced infinitely better horses than Adriano has..

What makes Adriano's races nice and Sedgefield's not so good?

Recency and no perspective.

Once the Derby is over, about 15 horses will be crowned "rats" after people have goo-gooed over them for 90 days.

A thread on Adriano is on the verge of reaching 3 pages. There is no hope for mankind.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

A thread on Adriano is on the verge of reaching 3 pages. There is no hope for mankind.

Why no such love for Recapturetheglory I wonder??

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Why no such love for Recapturetheglory I wonder??

maybe people want some reality to go with their fantasy?




and as for elysium fields (can't remember which thread included speculation about his next) he will NOT run in the lexington.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah, you guys are right, Sedgefield is the goods. I look forward to watching him up the track again today in an allowance race. I guess I need to work on my perspective. I have so much to learn.

Yeah, because I totally said Sedgefield is the goods. You're getting petulant about an Adriano vs. Sedgefield debate? Yikes, Hoss!

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Adriano put up two nice looking performances. One on Turf and one on Poly. His turf race looked good but he did settle behind a really fast pace before he took the race on his own and won by 8. His Lanes End Race he won in hand and just shook off his competetion. He may not like dirt if the FOY tells me anything but who knows what happened that day.

Let me take a second here to FINALLY address this:

There are cases where horses get perfect setups running from the rear: these would be races contended on the front end, and followed by middle moves, that ultimately collapse. There was a 2 horse duel in that turf race. NOTHING else ran. Adriano closed 'on his own' and he WIPED OUT the field. In other words, while he was drawing off the last split, EVERYTHING else was going backwards. To say that he got a good setup would be to miss the point. (To look at complicated races, as those on the turf typically are, only in terms of how fast the splits are, would also be missing the point; but we really don't want to get into that.)

We need, at a minimum, to be able to distinguish between those races where horses run exceptionally and those where they get good setups, and run well as a result.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I hope you're kidding.

I am always 100 percent dead serious on internet boards. What is sarcasm??

.....


...then again that glory horse does have the 2nd highest 3 yr old route Beyer this year....no?????

...yes?????


....no?????

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Let me take a second here to FINALLY address this:

There are cases where horses get perfect setups running from the rear: these would be races contended on the front end, and followed by middle moves, that ultimately collapse. There was a 2 horse duel in that turf race. NOTHING else ran. Adriano closed 'on his own' and he WIPED OUT the field. In other words, while he was drawing off the last split, EVERYTHING else was going backwards. To say that he got a good setup would be to miss the point. (To look at complicated races, as those on the turf typically are, only in terms of how fast the splits are, would also be missing the point; but we really don't want to get into that.)

We need, at a minimum, to be able to distinguish between those races where horses run exceptionally and those where they get good setups, and run well as a result.

Were there really any world beaters in that NW1 ALW turf race? Come on he had a GII and a GIII on his resume prior to that mentioned turf race and he still was not the favorite in that race (head scratcher). I am not saying it wasnt impressive looking beacuse it it did look nice but the two horses that dueled certainly did not stick around to be second or third. His Lanes End was a bit more impressive cause he was not at a full gallop when he crossed that wire and still no one closed.
His pedigree says route, he has the loot to get in the derby, and he will be fresh leading into the derby. I SAY TAKE A SHOT! He can always go back to Turf.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Were there really any world beaters in that NW1 ALW turf race? Come on he had a GII and a GIII on his resume prior to that mentioned turf race and he still was not the favorite in that race (head scratcher). I am not saying it wasnt impressive looking beacuse it it did look nice but the two horses that dueled certainly did not stick around to be second or third. His Lanes End was a bit more impressive cause he was not at a full gallop when he crossed that wire and still no one closed.
His pedigree says route, he has the loot to get in the derby, and he will be fresh leading into the derby. I SAY TAKE A SHOT! He can always go back to Turf.

I certainly thought he was a LOCK that day. His race against Cowboy Cal, at LRL, was HUGE.

I thought he moved too soon in the Lane's End.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sedgefield ran well today.

Did he run today? Given his most recent form, who even bothered to notice.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sedgefield ran well today.

Eh, whatever. Comparing what Sedgefield is doing now to what Adriano is doing now is pretty inane. Sedgefield has obviously been a disappointment since the Derby, but the fact remains that he ran way better and faster at three than Adriano has so far.