Derby Grid/Graded Earnings

Kasept · #1 04-12-2008, 07:08 PM

1 Pyro 1,020,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000

6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000

11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Cool Coal Man 212,767
14 Anak Nakal 212,216
15 Eight Belles (f) 210,000

16 Cowboy Cal 207,660
17 Behindatthebar 204,500
18 Visionaire 202,500
19 Big Truck 194,500
20 Bob Black Jack 180,000

21 Denis of Cork 165,000
22 Halo Najib $157,996
23 Indian Sun $154,000
24 Tomcito $151,292

ateamstupid · #2 04-12-2008, 07:12 PM

Isn't Denis of Cork unlikely to go? Looks like I was premature in saying Halo Najib was out.

SniperSB23 · #3 04-12-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Isn't Denis of Cork unlikely to go? Looks like I was premature in saying Halo Najib was out.

I have a tough time believing that there won't be at least one or two uncertains that are feeling a lot more certain right now. I'll be surprised if Porter doesn't have a filly in here. Why wouldn't you run a horse like Anak Nakal either? What the hell else is he going to do? A 95 Beyer is going to get second in this Derby and possibly first if Big Brown doesn't fire.

jcs11204 · #4 04-12-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I have a tough time believing that there won't be at least one or two uncertains that are feeling a lot more certain right now. I'll be surprised if Porter doesn't have a filly in here. Why wouldn't you run a horse like Anak Nakal either? What the hell else is he going to do? A 95 Beyer is going to get second in this Derby and possibly first if Big Brown doesn't fire.

wont the bluegrass come back a decent number.....
my calculations have it being in the 99-104 range

ArlJim78 · #5 04-12-2008, 07:22 PM

question for historians, whats the lowest beyer to win the derby? whatever it is the record may be threatened this year.

jcs11204 · #6 04-12-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

question for historians, whats the lowest beyer to win the derby? whatever it is the record may be threatened this year.

giacomos had to be pretty low

SniperSB23 · #7 04-12-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

question for historians, whats the lowest beyer to win the derby? whatever it is the record may be threatened this year.

Giacomo with 100

Hickory Hill Hoff · #8 04-12-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Giacomo with 100

Looks like "under" that.

Danzig · #9 04-13-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Isn't Denis of Cork unlikely to go? Looks like I was premature in saying Halo Najib was out.

altho denis' owner cancelled many of the rooms he had reserved, he didn't sound like the trip was completely out of the question. i'd imagine his horse will ship to churchill and they'll play it by ear.

as for the jones fillies, i now look for eight belles to run on oaks day. and since she's their best, i'd be surprised to see any of his others run on saturday.

as for the bluegrass beyers...i don't know that it matters. i'll be shocked if that race is in any way a key to the derby.

IrishofNDMan · #10 04-13-2008, 01:43 PM

Doesn't the owner still def. want to bring Denis of Cork, he just doesn't think he will have the earnings? I think if he can get in he will def. be in the Derby.

SniperSB23 · #11 04-13-2008, 01:46 PM

Would fourth in the Lexington bump Tomcito ahead of Denis of Cork?

hockey2315 · #12 04-13-2008, 01:51 PM

Looks like Denis should come in at number 20.

slotdirt · #13 04-13-2008, 06:19 PM

Man, there are some horses very high on that list that in a normal year would have absolutely no business making the gate on May 3 in L-ville...

Danzig · #14 04-13-2008, 06:24 PM

there are horses every year on the list that have no business going.

denis will squeak in i bet, i doubt proud spell takes up a hole on may 3.

slotdirt · #15 04-13-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

there are horses every year on the list that have no business going.

denis will squeak in i bet, i doubt proud spell takes up a hole on may 3.

Right, but what have you seen this year from, say, Z Humor, that makes you think that horse is a legitimate Derby horse? Hell, Turf War could be up in the top 10 list yet someone with half a brain figured out the horse doesn't belong in the Derby. I wish others would follow suit.

Then again, it's not like they're keeping someone who has any more of a chance from entering the race.

Danzig · #16 04-13-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Right, but what have you seen this year from, say, Z Humor, that makes you think that horse is a legitimate Derby horse? Hell, Turf War could be up in the top 10 list yet someone with half a brain figured out the horse doesn't belong in the Derby. I wish others would follow suit.

Then again, it's not like they're keeping someone who has any more of a chance from entering the race.

that's why i said elsehwhere only three year old earnings should count. it's a whole new season for these horses.

SOREHOOF · #17 04-13-2008, 07:16 PM

I'd like to see a point system to qualify. But I would use points earned as a 2YO.

cowgirlintexas · #18 04-13-2008, 07:58 PM

Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

GenuineRisk · #19 04-13-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

Here's the link to the story:

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44586

hockey2315 · #20 04-13-2008, 07:59 PM

She has absolutely no shot. . . That would really annoy me if they send her.