Derby Grid/Graded Earnings

I'd like to see Denis get 21st.

[hockey2315]

You don't think he has any shot so wouldn't you want him to get in?

[SOREHOOF]

I'd love to see her in! She would have as good of a shot as most of these

[lemoncrush]

I would prefer a new system to decide who gets in as well, although I don't really know what would be fair.
Perhaps graded earnings in races a mile or longer. That would take out the winners of those early 2-yo stakes races.
And then maybe...the top 10 are determined by graded earnings, and after that there's some kind of point system, selection committee, etc..
Who knows.

[hockey2315]

I say 3 year old graded earnings should be worth twice as much as two year old. . . First 15 get in that way. . . Then a "promoter's option" for the last five where a panel of experts chooses. . .

[SOREHOOF]

I think it should go by grade. The 2yo stakes should be just as important. I like 2yo races it gets me going for the Derby all summer long.

[SOREHOOF]

I don't see the Delta Jackpot being worth as much as the BCJuv. Or more than the Wood for that matter.

[hockey2315]

The Delta Jackpot should lose its grade

[SOREHOOF]

I love seeing the big purses, I just don't think it should be a free pass to the Derby. A good 2yo season should be a factor.

[hi_im_god]

name a good horse that will miss the entry gate this year because they lack graded earnings.

let's be sure there's a problem before we replace an easily understood straight forward qualifying system with some rube goldberg contraption.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

God, I hope not! got her @ 22-1 in the Oaks future (pool #1) would be a great score the day before the Derby at those odds.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

name a good horse that will miss the entry gate this year because they lack graded earnings.

let's be sure there's a problem before we replace an easily understood straight forward qualifying system with some rube goldberg contraption.

The rules are the rules. Everyone knows them and everyone lives by them. Who gets in gets in. The current system is Rube Goldberg for dummies.

[Scav]

Steve, Anak Nakal is a GO for the Derby per the DRF article on their front page.

[Scav]

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000
3 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
4 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000
5 Gayego Paulo Lobo $640,000
6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Monba Todd Pletcher $500,000
9 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
10 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $329,000
11 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
12 Recapturetheglory $300,000
13 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
14 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767
15 Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
16 Eight Belles Larry Jones $210,000
17 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $207,660
18 Visionaire Michael Matz $202,500
19 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
20 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000

Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000
Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996
Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
Atoned Todd Pletcher $140,000 *** (Lex)


So this is the prospected field, with the Lexington possibly causing Bob's Blackjack and Big Truck to get excluded, IF Tomcito/Atoned run 1-2

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Scav

So this is the prospected field, with the Lexington possibly causing Bob's Blackjack and Big Truck to get excluded, IF Tomcito/Atoned run 1-2

They can finish:

1. Behindatthebar/Racecar/etc..
2. Atoned
3. Tomcito

and the Visionaire would be in trouble too..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Scav

Steve, Anak Nakal is a GO for the Derby per the DRF article on their front page.

Pretty sad..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Pretty sad..

I don't know, he seems to be improving I guess, PLUS I have a future wager on him

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You don't think he has any shot so wouldn't you want him to get in?

I'd rather see the connections suffer so we can get more apology letters.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Improving?

I know, it is a reach,but at least I have a 5% natural odds chance of cashing

[Buffymommy]

Kinda makes me sad that Bob Black Jack may not make the field if some idiots join. He impressed me in his last race. I may have put some money on him...